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Going over my records and handloads today, came across some pics and data on my old 375 and 416 Chatfield Taylor..What a great caliber, duplicated the 375 Holland, and the 416 Rem in a light rifle, recoil was modest by comparison. I really liked those calibers and they worked as well on DG and anything else I used, a reminder in the real world the bottom line is bullet placement and bullet construction, not raw power, massive recoil, and caliber..I suppose the Ruger 375 and 416 have dealt the death blow to these two caliber and probably rightly so, but never the less they were the best in there day, and deserve to stick around for another decade or two at least..A pair of those would still be African perfect today..

Biebs for your information Ross Sefried carried a Blaser 416 Taylor as his backup rifle during his 11 or so years as a PH in Africa, if my memory serve me right...and that's the best recommendation one could ask for..


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Ray, I was at Seyfried's old ranch in Colorado many times. I cannot ever remember his mentioning carrying a Blaser to Africa. Not saying he did or did not, but it would make perfect sense, because he was extremely concerned about the possibility of loosing or damaging a "good" gun either in shipping or to some good ole boy. I do not think he ever took his Rigby .577 to Africa as a PH and his .416 Rigby only made a trip or two. IIRC he once had a .470 confiscated by Customs in NYC, it was apparently stolen at some time prior to his purchasing it from Thad Scott. Created a bit of a problem since he was headed for Africa and every PH needs a stopper rifle, right?
 
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Liking Ruger rifles, I always thought a 416 Taylor would be nice in a Ruger action. Never had one made, but when Ruger introduced the 416 Ruger to fit their regular actions (not the RSM), I was sold and excited. Bought a Ruger Alaskan which would not feed. After sending it in to Ruger, and having them replace it three times, all of which did not feed either, I gave up. Then some years later, I tried one more time, and it too would not feed. Frowner

I just bought another one (I am a slow learner or an eternal optimist. I prefer to think of myself as the latter!). This one is a gray laminate, African. I had the seller show me the extraction with full mag, one in the chamber, and repeat with two in the mag and finally one in the mag. All successful, so it's mine now and should arrive in today's mail. dancing

The Ruger cart is obviously an improvement (no belt, more powder, more velocity) over the Taylor round, so I am excited to see/use this rifle. As I don't reload, and factory ammo is available, this round works for me vs. the Taylor. In the last two months, I have found and purchased an identical rifle gray lam./African in 375 Ruger and a gray/lam. 338WM. This will be my Alaskan battery to choose from when I finally get to hunt that state. Thank you Ruger, for both the rifles and the new cartridges! Smiler
 
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In the later years of Craig Boddington’s tenure as host of Tracks Across Africa he uses a Ruger MKII rebarrled to 416 Taylor.

You can see the rifle on Safari Rifles II DVD and Buffalo II DVD. It has a blues action with stainless steel barrel.
 
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I had one built on a Czech VZ-24 Mauser action by Val Albert of Medford, Oregon. He fitted a Pac-Nor barrel and three-position wing safety, and bedded it in a Bell and Carlson Medalist stock.
This was to be a working rifle and it handled the Taylor's recoil very nicely. I sold it to a member here from Texas before I really put it to any use beyond the shooting range.
Always wished I had spent more time with it.


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Squezenhope,
Ross did use a 416 Taylor, Blaser in AFrica, and he even wrote about it..He used light for caliber bullets in it, 300 or 350s? in the article..Ive known Ross over the years and I don't recall him talking about it, I mean who in the world would admit using a Blaser in front of Jack Belk, Phil Shoemaker, and such royality! rotflmo

I have a 375 Ruger Hawkeye, wood and blue, that feeds the 375 Ruger round slicker n snot with everything Ive put through it..Ive never had a feed problem, not one and Ive owned a number of Rugers..

Surefire I think your snake bit my friend shocker !!


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You're right Ray. I WAS snakebit on the 416 Ruger. Never had so much trouble in my life on one rifle model.

Glad to report it's over now. The gray laminate 416 I just bought is actually what I've wanted all along, but could only find the Alaskan. Thankfully, this rifle feeds effortlessly. Saga over...
 
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With all the ill conceived "new" factory cartridges, this one that should have happened, but didn't.

My 416 Taylor is on slick feeding Mauser action with a M70 style safety. I can get a 400 grain bullet moving out at 2300 and change and using RL-17 I get the Speer 350 ripping along at nearly 2600.


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