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13 December 2019, 19:09
Palmer
Stuck brush
How can I remove a copper wire bore brush from my 308? I must have used the wrong one and it is stuck about 3 inches down the barrel. I cant push it further or pull it back out. Thanks.


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13 December 2019, 19:16
JTEX
If it got stuck on the push stroke, I would think you are just gonna have to push harder.........

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13 December 2019, 20:15
Hogbreath
an undersized wooden dowel from the other end and push it back out.


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13 December 2019, 21:02
Palmer
It was on the push stroke. Maybe a combination of the above two suggestions - an undersized wood rod and tap it on through with a hammer? Possibly squirt some oil down the barrel also.


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16 December 2019, 03:59
Fury01
Don’t try tapping it backwards. You must keep moving it in the direction you started. Liberal lube. Patience. Once it moves it will keep moving. Unless there is an obstruction in front of it...
Also copper solvent will eat that brush but flush it with non ammonia fluid.


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16 December 2019, 08:55
eagle27
Problem with obstructions in barrels is that following up with rods or dowels often results in more 'things' becoming stuck in the bore. I have remove all manner of solid obstructions by firing just primed cases for starters and measuring movement of the obstruction up the bore. If no movement I then use a few grains of shotgun or pistol powder. Invariably the obstruction will be blown out. With a brush you need to push a ball of cloth or cardboard up to the brush to form a gas seal to blow it out. Start with primer only then 2 or 3 grains fast powder. Point the rifle upwards so powder is against the primer.
Seen too many attempts with rods (the end often gets stuck then comes off when the rod is pulled back), pieces of dowel, wire, etc, some of which can damage the bore.
16 December 2019, 12:29
Mark
Plug the bore and use a copper solvent on it. Also removed one once by clamping the cleaning rod in a vise on a table and wrapped a ratchet strap around the receiver (removed stock), hooked the other strap around a leg on the far end of the table and it pulled out surprisingly easy. I've only done those two methods on two separate guns though.


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27 December 2019, 05:59
Snyper
quote:
Originally posted by Hogbreath:
an undersized wooden dowel from the other end and push it back out.

If a wooden dowel splits it becomes a wedge that only makes the problem worse.
It's better to use a brass rod.


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27 December 2019, 06:10
lockingblock
Brass rod...tap it out.

If you can’t find that, wooden dowel rod but I’d try to wrap the end in electric tape to get it to exact bore size to help it not split.

Don’t chemical it out or try to melt it...
29 December 2019, 04:10
skeochbrian
Use a bore fitting rod, brass, flat on the end, push it out the shortest way.
29 December 2019, 21:21
crabyx78
once had a muzzleloader with stuck brush took an aluminum arrow cut for length pushed it down over the brush came out easy
30 December 2019, 03:36
Fury01
Now there is a clever idea.


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30 December 2019, 06:51
squeezenhope
I am not an archer so know nothing about arrow shaft diameters, but if arrows will not fit maybe copper tubing? For my two cents worth, in the absence of the tubing idea, I doubt that copper brush can be reversed. If using a rod, drive it out from the rear, as some have suggested. If it was a nylon brush I think there would be a much better chance of driving it from the muzzle.
30 December 2019, 11:03
Nakihunter
I've used powder coated cleaning rod to just tap it out. Make sure the rod is threaded on to the brush shank so you do not ruin the rod.

I just hold the rifle vertical and tap the rod on the floor. Works every time.

No, I do not get brushes stuck, but I do use a tight patch or even paper wads sometimes.

Newspaper wads rolled into a cylinder are best for cleaning shotguns and removing leading.


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30 December 2019, 17:02
jeffeosso
brass rod, or even alum, if you have it, wooden dowel if you need to ..

slide hammers work, btw.. or so a FRIEND tells


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01 January 2020, 03:12
Gojoe
It has always amazed me, how quick copper solvents will eat a bore brush.. Could you repeatedly wet the brush with a copper solvents somehow?


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01 January 2020, 15:41
JBrown
quote:
Originally posted by Gojoe:
It has always amazed me, how quick copper solvents will eat a bore brush.


I agree. Something like KG12 would be perfect for this. It eats copper like crazy and doesn’t harm steel.

I would think that you could plug the bore just below the brush and flood the bore with enough KG12 to cover the brush and have it out in a relatively short time.


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08 January 2020, 23:56
Atkinson
I would plug the muzzle and fill the barrel with a copper removing solvent over night, then I like the arrow idea, then push it out with brass welding of 30? dia. I'm sure there are a number of ways to push it forward, I might try to unscrew the rod and drive the brush itself out..It must be really tight so I would probably avoid a wood dowl..


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09 January 2020, 00:34
Opus1
Sooooo whatever happened? Brush still stuck? Give up? Success?


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09 January 2020, 02:20
Palmer
I think the following worked because the brush stuck on the push stroke..... I managed to get the Dewey cleaning rod screwed back onto the brush down in the barrel then whittled out a plug for the barrel from a branch off our Christmas tree - which made the tree look a little out of balance if you looked at it from one direction so I turned it more to the wall.

Then I whittled the plug down some more and wrapped the plug with a patch then filled the barrel with solvent, let it stand in a corner where the carport meets the house for about 5 hours. I only had to top it off twice.

Then I had my deer hunting partner come over and hold the rifle upright while I climbed up a step ladder and tapped it on through with the blunt end of a hatchet. I lightly tapped on the red handle of the cleaning rod until it started moving then tapped harder. The brush finally knocked out the plug too and the solvent came out in a rush (out both ends of the barrel) which caused my buddy to flinch to keep it off his jeans. Fortunately we were holding it over the dogs wooden bowl water dish and managed to catch most of it. We only made a small mess when Jan flinched.

Unfortunately the spots are still on or in the carport concrete which is apparently a major issue according to the Misses. As far as I can tell there was no damage visible other than a couple spots on the concrete in the carport and also the dog doesn't care for his water out of that wood dish anymore. Oh yes, we had to live with a screwed up Christmas tree also but that was only for a few days.

Now to see if it still shoots the same. We have some fairly good weather right now here in Branson, Mo. and deer season is over but I need to see if the Jeep will start so to get me to my wood lot. Its probably going to need a new battery.


ALLEN W. JOHNSON - DRSS

Into my heart on air that kills
From yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills,
What spires, what farms are those?
That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot come again.

A. E. Housman
09 January 2020, 03:05
BNagel
Wait. You clean from the crown end? (Might be why you couldn't get a purchase and force it on through from the breech end.) Reclean and lube before you call it good...

Grease the cleaning rod at the handle where the ball bearings are. Messed up a Shooter's Choice stainless rod by hammering something clear of a barrel. It's still good for swabbing with an oiled patch, but won't spin anymore.


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09 January 2020, 18:07
Palmer
I don't normally clean from that end. This was a new rifle and not being familiar with Remington 700's I could not find the bolt release.

Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I learned a lot.


ALLEN W. JOHNSON - DRSS

Into my heart on air that kills
From yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills,
What spires, what farms are those?
That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot come again.

A. E. Housman
10 January 2020, 04:03
Mark Clark
We had a customer get a cloth patch stuck. So of course he beat on it with a big hammer until the rod expanded. The short version of this story is he ended up with an 18" barrel.
We cut a one inch peice of the barrel and could not get the rod to move with the hydraulic press.
Customer was going to have a new barrel made after hunting season but liked it lighter and shorter plus it shot better.
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11 September 2020, 06:20
Atkinson
Palmer,
I bet yur dog loved that... rotflmo

stuff called "SUPER CLEAN" will clean gas and oil of cement, so mama don't get mad cuz when mamas mad everybodys sad!!


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com