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what size to fit a Italian Hawkin, a Zouave Buffalo hunter, both 58s and a Lyman Plainsgame 54?? Need to order as none locally, and the salemen just give me a funny look!!


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Call Track of the Wolf. They will know and have them in stock. Good insurance.
 
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Ray, your Buff Hunter didn't come with a musket nipple? I would ask the fellas at Lodgewood Guns. They should have what you need.

http://www.lodgewood.com/


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http://www.warrencustomoutdoor...mag-spark.html#chart
 
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He needs one for his new Italian 58 Hawken. It has a #@11 now.
 
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The Hawken shoots a 1/4x28..Hoping the Zouave Buffalo HUnter will also..converting both to Musket caps.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
 
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Nope the guys at the mL gun stores are wrong..The 58 Hawkin is a Investarms Italian and it and the 54 Lyman GPR shoot 6mmx75 nipples not 1/4x28. The Navy Arms shoots a huge musket Nipple, There is one in Buffalo Arms catalog but no number to go with it..What I need now is some 6mmx75 Musket nipples and whatever that big nipple is in the Navy arms Zouave..I have found nipples but not musket nipples...

Im beginning to think Id be better off to just have my gunsmith do all three to 1/4x28 and be done with it..Seems like most have regular and Musket nipples for that measurement.

the thing Im beginning to believe is ML parts and pieces are rare in Southern Idaho..No powder other than 777 and no musket nipples and several other things I need.. pissers


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
 
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Hi everyone I am Larry/Will47

Dixie gun works sells them about $4.
 
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Note that you will also be loosing some pressure/velocity going with the larger nipple and vent hole. Unless you are having ignition problems it may not be worth changing.

If you are having ignition problems: are you using real blackpowder?
 
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CharlieP can't you just add a few grains of black powder? A problem???
 
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I believe the musket nipples are 5/16-24 thd. and use "musket caps". You can get musket caps in either the winged style or standard style. The nice thing about the winged version is that you can just brush them off with the back of your hand and load another one quickly, if quickly actually relates to anything muzzleloading.


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I had a Navy Arms Zouve in the early 70's. They were made in Italy, and I don't think they used the same thread as the original Springfield Rifle Musket.

I sold mine in the mid 70''s, and went to a traditional flintlock rifle. Dixie Gun works woulld know what they take thread wise. The European rifle probably also uses a metric thread., and being a rifle would probably have a different threaded nipple than the sporterized Zouve that is the Buffalo Hunter. I used to shoot a Lyman Mine Ball in my Buffalo Hunter.

When you find out what you need for nipples get two of each. That way you'll never ruin or loose one... I might still have parts somewhere. You will probably need two different nipple wrenches. I know that I still have my Lyman 575213OS mould blocks.The Civil War powder charge was 60 grains of 2FF black powder. I lubed my minies with Crisco.

Shot me a PM if you want to buy my Mouild blocks I am using the handles for orher things. I also have a Thompson Center 50 caliber Maxi Bullet Mould, and a I think a 54 caliber Lyman round Ball block .530.

My Midway catalog list all of these moulds at $62.00 a piece. Old age and bad health are stinkers.

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Ray,

Track of the wolf should have everything you need.


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https://www.dixiegunworks.com/...Magnum+Musket+Nipple

Then make sure that the hammer clears the cap. You may need to open the hammer up.

Musket nipple come with and without the Hat brim, Kind of depends on what you like!

The hotter spark may change POI.


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Look Ray: your a big boy now, and real men shoot a flintlock...

By the time you screw around changing nipples you could have just purchased another box of whatever type of caps you don't have. The cap lock was only around from about 1820 until the end of the Civil War, 1865. I think that you and I were both born about then...

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