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This was a battlefield pick up that the father of my brother-in-law gave me. It was a folding bayonet Carcano.
first the sights were removed. The rear sight had to be turned off on the lath. The remaining seam was welded over and th whole barrel was machined and polished, the front sight was soldered on and the rear was drilled and tapped. The chamber had to be lapped as it was closed to tight at welding.The hang down magaxine- trigger was replaced by a Mauser mod. 93 or 95 bottom metal. This took a little machining and fitting.The rails took a little modification to get good feeding.
popcornThis is the sporterized original stock.There was a lot of fitting, inletting and finishing. Yours truely did all the work and it took between 5 and 7 years.Just a fun project for a young man. fishing
Before I could get reloadable brass I modified Military brass to accept boxer primers. I also machined and formed 30-40 and British (boxer primed)brass by removing the rims , grooving the heads and forming. I honestly thought I had answered the question on that thread. beerroger


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This is as nice a Carcano as I've seen....well done Roger!


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This was a battlefield pick up that the father of my brother-in-law gave me. It was a folding bayonet Carcano.
first the sights were removed. The rear sight had to be turned off on the lath. The remaining seam was welded over and th whole barrel was machined and polished, the front sight was soldered on and the rear was drilled and tapped. The chamber had to be lapped as it was closed to tight at welding.The hang down magaxine- trigger was replaced by a Mauser mod. 93 or 95 bottom metal. This took a little machining and fitting.The rails took a little modification to get good feeding.
popcornThis is the sporterized original stock.There was a lot of fitting, inletting and finishing. Yours truely did all the work and it took between 5 and 7 years.Just a fun project for a young man. fishing
Before I could get reloadable brass I modified Military brass to accept boxer primers. I also machined and formed 30-40 and British (boxer primed)brass by removing the rims , grooving the heads and forming. I honestly thought I had answered the question on that thread. beerroger


Would you have a close-up of the inletted gold piece in the stock? That looks interesting.


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wave That is the inverse side of a Morgan silver dollar. I would be glad to send you a close up by E mail.I personally have never posted a foto on this form. beerroger


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waveVD ! What a guy! claproger


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Vapodog, you continue to amaze. That is the ONLY nice Carcano that I have ever seen. And it is very nice indeed.

I'm being perfectly serious here...every other Carcano that I have laid eyes (or hands) on was (at best) ridden hard and put away wet
 
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Vapodog, you continue to amaze. That is the ONLY nice Carcano that I have ever seen. And it is very nice indeed.

I'm being perfectly serious here...every other Carcano that I have laid eyes (or hands) on was (at best) ridden hard and put away wet

Thanks for the kind words....however this Carcano is the sole work and brainchild of Roger....he posts as bartsche

And FWIW I agree...it's a very good Carcano....if there is such a thing.

Roger has asked me to help with his next project.....and I'm honored to do so...it's going to be the same Carcano cartridge but on a VZ-24 action.....I think Roger wants to see what he can "wring" from the Carcano round! dancing


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fishingDoes anyone see the ghost image of the American flag in Vapo Dogs original thread start? My son the photographer's handy work. patriotroger


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Roger has asked me to help with his next project.....and I'm honored to do so...it's going to be the same Carcano cartridge but on a VZ-24 action.....I think Roger wants to see what he can "wring" from the Carcano round! dancing

What VD isaying is correct. Roger ,however, came to a fork in the road and the project goes on but is changeing some. Through the years the Carcano has kind of lead me to designing a similar wildcat but based on the .470" dia. head size (.308,30-06 etc.). As this is written the intent is to have VD build a 6.5mmx51.8mm. This would be a .260 with a 26.5degree shoulder with a neck close to .345" long and a seriously deep throat to acommodate long for caliber cup and core bullets. popcorn
The thinking was " Hey you got a lot of kicks with a couple Carcanos horse but now it is time to move on and not try to relive the past." Soooo clap All this thought work was done around the .308 as at the time there was no .260. beerroger


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how hard is it to get a .268 dia bbl ?


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how hard is it to get a .268 dia bbl ?

I don't know anyone that makes them.

One might be able to upset a .264 bullet in a die....not sure it's worth it however.


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you can buy the proper size bullets from hornady
and i would like to have a carcano that was somewhat accurate just to play with, they are short and handy, a friend pinched a nerve in the palm of his hand working the saftey on one


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fishingDoes anyone see the ghost image of the American flag in Vapo Dogs original thread start? My son the photographer's handy work. patriotroger

Had you not pointed it out, I'd have never noticed!....but it's there clear as hell!

Does this make it an American Carcano? dancing


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fishingDoes anyone see the ghost image of the shockerAmerican flag in Vapo Dogs original thread start? My son the photographer's handy work. patriotroger

Had you not pointed it out, I'd have never noticed!....but it's there clear as hell!

Does this make it an American Carcano? dancing

patriot Joint effort between the Carcano folks and yours truely It's an "Americano" shocker roger


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It's an "Americano"

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I didn't take note, in the original thread, of the fitted bottom metal- unique and really compliments the rifle.

patriotThank you. claproger


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Vapodog, you continue to amaze. That is the ONLY nice Carcano that I have ever seen. And it is very nice indeed.

I'm being perfectly serious here...every other Carcano that I have laid eyes (or hands) on was (at best) ridden hard and put away wet


old I thank you also though late in coming. claproger beer


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Being a 6.5 lover, I'm a closet Carcano fan. Some of them are very nicely machined, others not so much. I had a very nice pre-WWI rifle that was among the most accurate surplus guns I have shot -- and that includes minty Swede 96's.


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I found a Carcano action I forgot I had in my storage building and thought I would use it for a project with several different options on it that I am afraid to practice on a good action.
Is it possible to solder or pin an enbloc clip into the magazine and load the cartridges in it like a Mauser magazine?
 
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I found a Carcano action I forgot I had in my storage building and thought I would use it for a project with several different options on it that I am afraid to practice on a good action.
Is it possible to solder or pin an enbloc clip into the magazine and load the cartridges in it like a Mauser magazine?


Another option is to make a single shot out of it . I did this with another Carcano by rechambering it to 6.5 X 55 and dumping the magazine metal. A load ramp was fashioned and welded in and an el cheapo trigger guard was screwed on the stock which was inleted and finished.
old I'm still uninjured after using it to hunt and got two mule deer with it. beerroger


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I have a Model 96 floorplate/bottom metal. I'll have to see if it will fit. But is it possible to affix an enbloc clip in one?
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oldI never tried it but there is a fair possibility. Loading the cartridges into the clip might require some thinking. beer roger


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They made Carcano rifles for the Japanese during WW2 and put Mauser type bottom metal on them.

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Wouldn't it have been easier to convert it to 6.5x 54 MS ?

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oldThis was my favorite Mil. sporter. beerroger


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Wouldn't it have been easier to convert it to 6.5x 54 MS ?



old I know this is slow in coming Griz. When the 6.5 x 54 Norma brass was available I used it to form Carcano brass.
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