Finally i got it and yust as the mounts are placed on it ,the shooting can start. Well here is some pictures of it.



Rifle seen from front, notice it has a few of
the Weatherby style on it ,as Weatherby got made his 378 rifles at their factory until his Mark V was developed.




Action seen from the right side



Open action, notice the locking lugs at the rear , other rifles that has them is Colt Sauer, Steyr Mannlicher, Remington 788, and the French Mas 36, all of them great rifles.



action from the left side



From a side of it



And the reason why its a great cartridge, the abillity to use different bullet weight, like from left 310 grain woodleigh Soft point

Remington 200 grain corelokt stands alone , 225 grain Sierra GK, and 250 grain Nosler PArtition.

This can launch a 250 grain in homeload shoot the 250 grain bullet in nearly 3000 feet. The NP will then be like a 270 WCF in trajectory.

The 310 grain makes it like 375 and can be in som African countries be used on BG and DG.

The bullets are yust duds , i havent found the right lenght for them yet, yust to see how they fed in the mechanism.

It is a rugged and solid lock, it sounds like a bankvault door on opening and closing.





Here is a picture of the rifle with the scope on . the Scope is a Shmicht &Bender 3-12x42 with a German post nr 1 reticle.





Here is the rifle on the shooting range.



And here its on the bench cooling down after shooting.

There is some recoil in it, i mean its like a 375 , but its a good rifle and very nicely made.

I havent shot bullets i npapers yet mbut that will come soon on the plan of duties..

Werry nice Schultz & Larsen M65-DL.
It is a werry strong action with a little funny way to load the cartridges (tilt rifle on its back, open magazinelid, and poor rounds in)
One thing you should be aware of is that oil or water on the cartridges, or in the chamber, often result in flyers exceeding 4-8".

But cyckeling the bolt sure is impressive and among the fastest and the smoothest

Is that os they load it, i put them in the magazine and press them normally downwards. Ill try the other soulution too, i have heard about it. The price was 1500 dollar for it. It has a new Lothar Walther barrel and it will be very fine to use.

Roedeer hunt on the 25th , and some moose later on, fox hunting (sniping) in the winter and abroad over Christmas, this will be a fine year to try out the rifle that has such a history. Rudolf Sand used a in 7x61 S&H and he took 281 species with it. Jens Perto has one also and some friends of me has one aswell that a interresting story.

My friends father was in Alaska on Grizzly hunt and he was charged from 15-20 meters range. He put 3 rounds in the Grizz`,and he fell nearly on his shoes...

He used a hunting diopter on the rifle and the grizz filled the intire field of wiev. The two first rounds went in the chest and the third one yust under the bears right eye and out his head. The bear weighed 450 kgs and there is a reason the guy became nearly 90 years old. The 358 NOrma Magnum.

Its a interresting cartridge as it was designed by my Guru, Nils Kvale and , He was Norwegian, made in Sweden by norma and chambered in Husquarna ,they was swedish rifles and by shultz and Larsen in Denmark. I think that you Jørgen knows more about them then i do...


Elmer Keith said when the cartirdge cam out " My hat is off to Norma" . He was impressed by it and so has many others too.

I have used the Krag Jørgensen rifles a great deal and they dont like too much oil or water on the ammo aswell. they will change the POI aswell. But thats something to consider and to keep the ammo and receiver dry.

I think ill have to get one in 416 someday as that would be a big brother that would be nice to use aswell.

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Originally posted by mr rigby:
I have used the Krag Jørgensen rifles a great deal and they dont like too much oil or water on the ammo aswell. they will change the POI aswell. But thats something to consider and to keep the ammo and receiver dry.

I think ill have to get one in 416 someday as that would be a big brother that would be nice to use aswell.

If it is rebarreled with a LW barrel the price is 500$ to high compared to one with original barrel

If i goes down in the dark corner of the basement, i might be able to find yuo one stamped Weatherby, in the Barby caliber called 460WeaMag. Then you dont have to wonder if it was a klik
The gentle 416 Rigby might also be an option

Well the 358 originals over here is a bit difficult to find, they are not sold by anyone.

A 460 Wby on a SL , hmmm it probably has a good price on it, if you dont need a new employee?? deduct it from the salary perhaps??

I have afriend who has a SL in 416 Rigby, you bought his Mauser in 500 Jefrrey , which i was originally going to buy. i had spoken eith him on the phone and it was alrigth ,we forgot to say it to the guy in the shop so a Dane bought it.

I still wake up screaming in the night ower the one that got away from me that would have cost me the same amount of cash and its now at sale for 6000 dollars !!!

The rifle cost 1000 plus 500 more for a new barrel, it had a Ictus barrel in 338 on it, idont know what it originally had .

Can it be shecked out. i can send you the number on a pm if you like?

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A 460 Wby on a SL , hmmm it probably has a good price on it, if you dont need a new employee?? deduct it from the salary perhaps??

You must be kidding, We dont have employed, We keep slaves, and they pay for working here.

But you are welcomed to apply

It sounds like Walther is running the show

Allright ill send some lines to be CEO and have the staff make rifles for me!!

BTW, my nickname in highscholl was Tackleberry, since my middlename is Eugene ,as in Officer Eugene Tackeleberry , the weapons fantic of the Police Academy films, i have never understood why they called me that!!

The Danish way of life with pretty girls and cheap beer can suit me yust lika a hand in a glove

I tried the loading way as you sugested Jørgen, and it was very fine . The rounds staggered themselves perfectly, then i chambered a round, turned it upside again and put in the 4th round.

I have a book that has lots of weapons from around the globe and about the S&L rifles, the one depicyed there is a 68 DL. It wrote sorthing about this, : "Exquvisite materials and handcraft. little tricky to load, very fine rifle , few made. "
It was in 264 Win Mag.

Well i have ordered scopemount for it, hopefully they will fit when they arrive and i can get to shoot the rifle, befor the weekend.

PErhaps ill have to get one in either 378 Wby or 416 someday as its bigbrother

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Originally posted by mr rigby:
Finally i got it and yust as the mounts are placed on it ,the shooting can start. Well here is some pictures of it.



Rifle seen from front, notice it has a few of
the Weatherby style on it ,as Weatherby got made his 378 rifles at their factory until his Mark V was developed.




Action seen from the right side



Open action, notice the locking lugs at the rear , other rifles that has them is Colt Sauer, Steyr Mannlicher, Remington 788, and the French Mas 36, all of them great rifles.



action from the left side



From a side of it

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Why are those bullets pushed so far in? roger

its yust a temporary way to get some duds, i havent got to lengthen them yet, but i will do a proper lenght of them to morrow

Ive always wanted to give the 270NF a good run in a .358nm.http://www.northforkbullets.com/358-270.htm N0 need to load up or down in bullet weights.One warhead for everything cause that super 270gn will do everything you could ever reasonable ask a 358nm to do.Its a dandy cartridge,as is the 9.3x64B.

I'll just lightly object to refering to the MAS36 as a "great rifle". The french things I think of as "great" all come wrapped in glass and are sealed with a cork.

AllanD

Well the French rifle might not be great,but it works and it is still in service as the FRF2 sniper rifle. Plus it has a bit of the same mechanism as the others.

But the French has much bottled goodies aswell, i agree with you in that

Don't overlook their food! I don't blame the Brits for being envious, heck I'd be envious too if everything I ate was boiled. No wonder they fought so much...

a mount trouble has occured, i ordered a Leupold QR mount that would fir, ehh , i have to go to the gunsmith this weekend.

Because one of the scopemount holes at the rear doesnt fit, its to narrow between the hole at the rear. the rear hole appear in the rear of the center hole where the lever moves up and down.

the mount fits the at the front and and the front rear hole,but not the last one.

However i just mounted the scope to see how the rifle shouldered and it shouldered perfectly!

So when the little problem is over, it will be perfect for my hunting uses.

To day i was at the gunsmith and i got it drilled and tapped ,and put on a Leupold Qr mount, the scope was fixed on it ,and to day it will be reloading and shooting . stay tuned for new pics and story tomorrow.....

Yesterday i got to shoot the cannon . Its some of the most fun shooting i have ever done. It was good to shoot the mighty 358 Norma Magnum at last. I have been searching for a S&L for several years and finally i got the rifle.

I loaded up with 3 different bullets, the 200 grain Reminton Core Lokt , 225 grain Sierra game King and the 250 grain Partition.

The NP grouped at 3 shots at a inch on 100 meters and two usaly were in the same hole, it looked like a large 8 .

It recoiled modest standing and shooting it, it went up in the shot and the recoil went away from the cheek and also away from the shoulder.

At the bench it was a bit more thump ,but it was a good thump as it felt like a 375 H&H with the load. But who cares about recoil, if you doesnt learn to use a rifle anyway, why did you buy one ? I might add .



Well here i have a exerpt from a Norwegian author who wrote about when his father was hunting for a Grizzly in Alaska and he used a Shultz &Larsen in 358 norma Magnum rifle.

It s a excerpt from the story.

"Sometimes he got a glimps of the man that was stalking against the wind along the crooked river in the bottom of the valley.

He hadnt seen the client on 30 minutes when a shot broke the silence . then came one more and another one."Oh shit " mumbled the guid and tried to imgine what happende down there .

He gripped around the lightgathering Zeiss binocular that the norwegian had handed him before he disappeared in to the field. He had left the backpack and other gear when he went stalking the Grizzly.

He had only gotten the Shultz &Larsen in 358 norma Magnum and a fistful of the large cartridges that was custom made on Norma Precision im Ã…motfors ,Sweden for him

After a few minutes the hunter reaappeared on the river bank and he signalled by holding the rifle over the head to show that the hunt was over.

The guiden emptied his lungs as he went down to the hunter. When the guide got down the ,the hunter started to to his amazement to leaded him to his prey.

The prey was dead. A bear that weighed ca 700-750 kgs, though the bear hadnt been out of the hide many weeks . It had gooten atleast one bullet through the chest ,but the final and deceisive bullet had gone through his head .

they got their knives and started to skin the bear and gut it before the dark came , there was other bears in the area and they wanted to get out of there quick.

It started to be bad shooting light and i had removed the scope and it saved my life he, said later ,when they were in camp.

I had only gotten a few meters into the bush when the bear heard me and he started to run around me and to attack me in the back.

I got to see something dark in the brush and i got the rifle up and ready, yust when i had done that , the bear rushed me at 15 meters range . If had the scope on, i would never be able to find the bear in the reticle ,and i wouldnt have been able to get a killing shot.

The large brached shrubberys prevented a shot at first,but it also slwed the bear down.

It was icredible how fast the bear moved againt me through this obstacle course. At that instant i got the silver bead on the bear on his chest and the shot went out , the bear was thrown a little bit backwards due to the stopping powder it had.

I went down to knee position and while i repeated the habillity to make a fast reload came good on this ,but shot number 2 were yust a rerun of nr 1, .

Before i knew it the bear was almost over me and i barely saw it in the diopter sight when i sendt the 3 and last round at him ,but it was over then."

well here you see the rifle with the scope on, the mount is a Leupold QR which has been fitted and it proves good.

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Originally posted by jørgen:
Werry nice Schultz & Larsen M65-DL.
It is a werry strong action with a little funny way to load the cartridges (tilt rifle on its back, open magazinelid, and poor rounds in).

Funnier (or more idiosyncratic, as you will have it) are the old M-38 hunting rifles and their successor, the M-42 politiriffel (made for the Danish rigspolitiet under German occupation) with their "bear trap" magazine. Watch your fingers ! ;-)

PS: I just fired the M-42 yesterday on the range.

I think you will love your M68 .358 Norma, they are a fine rifle.

I have had two .358 Normas...the first was built on a U.S. 1903 Springfield formerly owned by John Buhmiller, the Montana barrel-maker.

It was one of John's across-the-course high power competition rifles, chambered in '06. I found the headspace to be a bit loose when i got it, and had it re-bored and rechambered by Al Petersen in Riverhurst, Saskatchewan to .358 Norma Mag. It was astoundingly accurate.

My second one was an all original M68 S&L which I bought at a gun show in Calgary, Alberta 30 years ago. It was a good, dependable, hunting rifle but was nowhere near as accurate as the Springfield. But, as I paid only $350 for it in as new condition, I never felt like complaining. Still wish I hadn't sold it in the mid 1980's...