I just sent off the check and my FFL's paperwork for a 41 Mag Blackhawk Bisley 7.5" barrel, and yellow box. Any one have a supplier with the ~265 gr WFN or WLN for the .41? I'm wanting a big moderate speed bullet with huge meplat. That or someone with one of the factory loaded cast in an available load? I have looked a bit and no one had Buffalo Bore or others in stock. I need a 50 round box or a couple of 20 rounders. I would prefer to get 100 rounds bought or loaded. I will eventually get a mold for the WFN or similar. I am not interested in light fast bullets unless I have to for the empties. TIA. Be Well, Packy.
It has standard Ruger grips. But Bisley is the way I wish I could have gone on my Old Army years ago. I did a lot of black powder matches and could have utilized the stocks better. I may still have the frame replaced with a custom Bisley. I am sure though that the cult thing is just waiting in ambush and I will be one of them soon. I am wishing for some of the 265 gr loads or a mold. Didn't see one at the usual suspect enablers. Midway or Grafs. Well I hope the mail service continues, politics be damned. Be Well, Packy.
This is a Bisley framed Blackhawk. I was wishing for an Old Army to be altered to the Bisley style. I don't think I want the traditional Colt style or plow handle style of grip on any more guns after my experience with the Old Army in black powder competition. This 41 follows my wish. We shall see if my old hands and wrists can handle the recoil and hold the grip firmly. Just had a bout with a trigger finger condition in my thumb. It would pop and hurt every time I bent it and then straightened it out. Do you know how many times a day you do that? At night? On the dominant hand. It is much better now. I am going to get out this week and shoot the 50 AE and see if there is any residual problem. Shooting it wasn't the problem. Be Well, Packy.
The only heavy that I've been able to find and use is the 250 HP from GT Bullets. My load of 11.6 gr. of Vihtavuori N105 prints 10-shot one hole groups out of my 8-3/8" model 57. Should be running about 1170 fps, but not chronographed yet. 16.0 gr. of 2400 in my 4-5/8" Blackhawk is another good load. This is a long-nosed bullet, OAL at 1.705" so plenty of powder space for hot loads, but not needed for good expansion. Anything over 1000 fps should produce good results.
I was thinking around 950 FPS. But "She who must be obeyed" says to watch out when I start to thinking. I haven't studied the loading books yet. Sometimes the start load gives me accuracy and enough power at minute of deer to give complete penetration. That sounds like a goal to me. I don't need extra snort and a massive cannon flash to have fun with a magnum gun. Be Well, Packy.
I think I would like about a 250 gr WFN and a light wadcutter in the 185 to 200 weight. Maybe I should listen to a 41 mag veteran eh? I may end up with three molds. Do you think the 250 gr is too much of a good thing? I always like a long and heavy for caliber pushed at a moderate speed. It is hard to get a train moving but even harder to stop it. Forget all the formulas. Try the moderate speed heavies. But I will wait to hear your philosophy on it. Thanks and Be Well, Packy.
Heavy for caliber bullets are a lot more rare in .410/.411 than they are in .430 and .452. Let's just say a sectional density of .225 . . . that gives us a 322 gr in 45 caliber, a 291 gr in 44 caliber, and a 265 gr in 41 caliber. 335-360 grainers in 45 are easily found, as are 300-320 grainers in 44, but very few 41 caliber bullets over 250 gr are available. As a whitetail and pig gun, the 41 shines with 220-250 gr bullets. For larger game, I would just use the larger calibers.
I think I have 250 gr loaded rounds coming. But they will be loaded faster than I would load them. I'm finding it harder and harder to find components as we all are. I probably have the powder for good loads with H110 and some of the usual suspects. I have been sent lots of loads. You can tell the 41 is a cult following. Even Ken Waters' Pet Loads has several. Thanks for all the info. Please keep sharing. Be Well, Packy.
Thanks for the thought Bill. I received a box of 500 215 cast Hunter's Supply Keith style bullets. I thought it was the only in stock bullets I could find that day. 41s are not plentiful and some smaller bullet casting companies don't offer anything in 41 caliber. Be Well, Packy.
That SAECO sounds good. I have a box of 500 Hunters' Supply 41 cal 215 gr Keith style bullet. Should be good. But I have to get cases first. I have some loaded ammo coming but need more cases. I may have a line on some. Thanks for sharing all the info here guys. Be Well, Packy.
I think have some of the 250 and or 265 grain hard cast gas check bullets from Cast Performance if you still want some heavy bullets to try in your 41 mag. I used 265 grain hard cast in my 414 Supermag and I even load the 250 grain in 41 Special brass for some of my 41 Special guns and mid framed sized 41 mag guns.
I appreciate the offer but I have some loaded ammo shipped, bought from the manufacturer as all the usual suspects said they had no loaded ammo. Midway USA, Graf and Sons are just two of them. But thanks again and Be Well, Packy
Now I begin to think I spoke out of turn. No receipts or acknowledgements have come in from the company I thought I gave the go ahead. Maybe I need to just take you up on that RBRB. If you still wish to sell it PM me. Thanks and BE WELL, Packy.
Yes it is the rollmarked one. It is pretty but a real hogleg. Something that can get my venison as long as I do my part. It has been a challenge to find fuel to make her go bang. Before she got here I acquired primed empties, bullets, I have powder, dies, oooooops. No shell holder. Ordered that from Midway with some other small necessities. So instead of loading single stage or setting up the Dillon I am waiting on the mail. ... Be Well, Packy.
Just like when we were kids + waiting on the Sears wish book. I have a Dillon 650 + have set up complete tool heads for all of my favorite calibers. Pricey initially but a great timesaver for change-outs. I really like their design on the seating die pull pin. Especially when loading cast.
I looked a lot for loaded ammo but in the case of the fortyone it was to no avail. Thanks to all who helped. NC and all you guys take care and Be Well, Packy --- PS next question is How do I post a photo without exposing my GPS coordinates or whatever trackers come with photographic equipment these days? Be Well, Packy.
More 41 chronicals here. Got my Dillon going on the changeover to 41 Rem Mag. I was using Winchester virgin primed brass. Couldn't get the powder measure to give me more than 18 grains. I just stopped going the right direction as I adjusted. So I used my old RCBS measure and got it to settle on 19.4 grains H110 and loaded 18 rounds 215 Gr Keith style from Hunter's Supply. They look like my dies are adjusted right if I could just get my powder charger working right. I have three cylinders full to check her and the loads out. I'm pretty sure I won't be far off for sighting in. The only real wear is a bit of cylinder line as per any used gun. The rest is good. Still looking for some photo help. Have to get a grandkid over to photo it. Then I might be able to struggle through the process myself. Be Well, Packy.
I have a minor glitch in the powder dispenser but I will look at it Monday. I probably have forgotten some detail and will read the directions again. The progressive presses are really great. I wore out a Dillon Precision shirt. A fanboy. Be Well, Packy.