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27 November 2022, 02:50
Bill/Oregon
Blessed are the sausage makers ...
I am getting a horrible yen to try making some reasonably authentic Portuguese linguiça and chouriço. I have never made sausage before, working with casings, string, doing the very careful vertical smoke, etc. There used to be a little market in Portland, Oregon, that had a legendary meat counter where you could get these. Once you have had it, you can't settle for less -- and certainly not Mexican chorizo.
I would have to buy or build a smokehouse and a meat grinder, probably.
Anyone out there a serious sausage maker? Ann, don't you make your own?

This is what I am getting qt:
https://leitesculinaria.com/39...uguese-chourico.html


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27 November 2022, 06:09
Use Enough Gun
Hey Bill: In this day and age won't that little market in Portland, Oregon (if it's still in business) literally ship you some of those wonderful and authentic sausages? It's worth a try at least! Can't hurt to ask! Big Grin
27 November 2022, 08:30
Aspen Hill Adventures
quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
I am getting a horrible yen to try making some reasonably authentic Portuguese linguiça and chouriço. I have never made sausage before, working with casings, string, doing the very careful vertical smoke, etc. There used to be a little market in Portland, Oregon, that had a legendary meat counter where you could get these. Once you have had it, you can't settle for less -- and certainly not Mexican chorizo.
I would have to buy or build a smokehouse and a meat grinder, probably.
Anyone out there a serious sausage maker? Ann, don't you make your own?

This is what I am getting qt:
https://leitesculinaria.com/39...uguese-chourico.html


I'm still trying to find a good smoker. Everything looks like junk out there!


~Ann





27 November 2022, 10:57
waterrat
Masterbuilt is a great smoker used by many up here!


I tend to use more than enough gun
27 November 2022, 15:52
Bill/Oregon
UEG: I don't think that market is there anymore.
Waterrat, the Masterbuilt comes up in a lot of "10 best" type reviews.


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– John Green, author
27 November 2022, 19:12
Aspen Hill Adventures
With the Masterbuilt and many others the negative reviews are that the element on the electric models burns out pretty fast. On propane fired many tell me it is too hard to control the temperature which is apparently necessary for things like smoked sausage. Temps are done in stages for them.

I had bought a Masterbuilt over the summer but returned it the next day. The main door wasn't welded on the hinges right. Looked pretty cheaply made overall. Minimal effort on the welds for sure. I hate to spend the money on something that will only work for a short time.

Same with my grill. I grill almost every night for dinner. These things just do not last long.

BTW- As I am writing this I am watching two adult bald eagles flying over my front prairie field apparently fighting. At least that is what it looks like. Sure are big birds.


~Ann





27 November 2022, 19:33
Aspen Hill Adventures
A good place to learn the craft. Lots of experienced and friendly people here:

Sausage, Snack Sticks and Jerky Making


~Ann





27 November 2022, 20:31
Saeed
Never eaten a sausage.

Never will.

You lot must be insane! clap


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28 November 2022, 02:27
Michael Robinson
Saeed, I will get down to basics here.

Have you never had a Hebrew National all beef Kosher hot dog?

A sesame seed bun and Dijon mustard, chopped onions and sweet pickle relish complete the feast.

Best hot dog on earth!

I also like sweet Italian sausage, for a sandwich or a pizza, and linguica and chorizo for Cajun jambalaya and Portuguese cioppino.

The rest can be iffy, in my experience. As an example, I never did like kielbasa. Too fatty.

As another, I had a meat processor in Newfoundland make up some sausage from the less tender cuts of a moose I killed up there one autumn.

I did not like it! thumbdown

Now, the tenderloins were a different story. tu2


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
28 November 2022, 03:45
Aspen Hill Adventures
I wager "Nathan's" are better than Hebrew National for hot dogs.

Most cultures have some sort of sausage. Not sure why Saeed's doesn't.


~Ann





28 November 2022, 05:06
Bill/Oregon
Ann, cleaned my Traeger this afternoon and listened to the lovely soft calls of sandhills high above. They are supposed to be very good eating, but I love the goofy oafs too much to harm one.
My perspective is definitely changing with age.
A feral hog? No problemo if I ever get the chance.


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28 November 2022, 07:57
Michael Robinson
Ann, Nathan’s are not even in the top three.

Bill, you are a poet. I have never heard a better or more poetic description of a large ungainly bird than “goofy oaf.”

Perfect.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
28 November 2022, 09:29
Norman Conquest
the BEST smoker I ever made/had was made from an old Norge refer. If you can find one, snatch it up. They are porcelain lined, + after replacing the shelves with re-bar rods from wooden side supports, install a small pan at the bottom to hold the wood chips, + a piece of copper tubing that is trimmed at an angle that can be drawn or withdrawn to deal with airflow to the chips/coals.To make it an airtight seal, use silicone caulking on one side only, covering it with wax paper + sealing the door for 24 hours. It will make a perfect seal/gasket ; I have used this in the past to make a perfect fit head gasket on vehicles, as it will withstand 600 degrees, + brother, if you are reaching 600 degrees in either your car or smoker, you have more major issues to be concerned with. Wink
28 November 2022, 11:53
Saeed
Paddy and Declan immigrated to the US.

They were in New York, and Declan saw a HOT DOG stand.

"Hey Paddy, the bloody Yanks eat DOGS!"

Paddy says "Shut up Declan! We are in America. We will do as the Americans do and eat dogs. Here, I will us some"

He goes and buys two hot dogs.

They walk to the park, and sit on a bench.

Declan wasn't too sure about this business of eating dogs, so he unwraps his, and looks at it.

"Hey Paddy! Which part of the dog did YOU get?"


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28 November 2022, 16:44
Bill/Oregon
rotflmo rotflmo


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
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28 November 2022, 18:29
Aspen Hill Adventures
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
Ann, Nathan’s are not even in the top three.

Bill, you are a poet. I have never heard a better or more poetic description of a large ungainly bird than “goofy oaf.”

Perfect.


I've tried both. Nathan's is tops for me. tu2


~Ann





28 November 2022, 18:31
Aspen Hill Adventures
I am currently leaning towards this smoker:

https://www.bradleysmoker.com/...oker/?v=7516fd43adaa

Saeed, have you tried any smoked meats? Fish? What about cured smoked meats?


~Ann





28 November 2022, 19:44
Bill/Oregon
Ann, good luck if you go with Bradley. I had one years ago that wouldn't hold temps consistently, and I found that being limited to the Bradley compressed wood pucks for fuel could be inconvenient. When it worked, it put out a very good product though.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
28 November 2022, 20:56
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
I am currently leaning towards this smoker:

https://www.bradleysmoker.com/...oker/?v=7516fd43adaa

Saeed, have you tried any smoked meats? Fish? What about cured smoked meats?


No.

I like my meat fresh.

Kill it.

Cook it.

In Africa Rene makes biltong for me.

But my own recipe.

The meat is cut, and cooked with some spices.

Then dried.


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28 November 2022, 21:15
Aspen Hill Adventures
Question for you, Bill. Was your Bradley digital or analog?


~Ann





29 November 2022, 00:52
Bill/Oregon
Ann, I believe it was analog. I'm analog myself. Cool


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
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29 November 2022, 04:18
Aspen Hill Adventures
LOL, nothing wrong with that. I wonder if the digital models, which is what I am considering, are better nowadays. I still have not decided.

Bradley gets really good reviews but it is expensive. Masterbuilt get crap reviews.


~Ann





30 November 2022, 02:35
Michael Robinson
quote:
Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

I've tried both. Nathan's is tops for me. tu2


Ann, Nathan’s hot dogs are 100% beef, but they are not kosher.

I will not eat any hot dog made without rabbinic supervision. Cool

I am interested in your search for a good smoker. I used to use my regular Webber grill.

But it rusted out and I pitched it. So now I am looking for a grill and a smoker for next season.

I hope you are able to find a good one.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
30 November 2022, 03:30
Aspen Hill Adventures
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
quote:
Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

I've tried both. Nathan's is tops for me. tu2


Ann, Nathan’s hot dogs are 100% beef, but they are not kosher.

I will not eat any hot dog made without rabbinic supervision. Cool

I am interested in your search for a good smoker. I used to use my regular Webber grill.

But it rusted out and I pitched it. So now I am looking for a grill and a smoker for next season.

I hope you are able to find a good one.


LOL. Well, just say a prayer before you open the package. Wink


quote:
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL

In 1916, Polish immigrant Nathan Handwerker started a nickel hot dog stand on Coney Island with a $300 loan from two friends and his wife’s secret spice recipe. Today, Nathan’s is the most famous hot dog in the world, with restaurants across the globe, products in every supermarket in America and millions of fans. And yes, the original Coney Island restaurant is still there at the corner of Surf and Stillwell – home of our annual Hot Dog Eating Contest.


I have to run to town for errands tomorrow. Gonna buy the jumbo size Nathan's now that I am in the mood for a good hotdog again. Mmm!

Mike, have you considered a smoke tube? I use one to do cheeses. It's for cold smoking but it does work on a chicken or any other meat you smoke, you still will need to cook it after. I use maple pellets and stick the thing inside my propane grill. Really not suitable for doing smoked sausages as they need to smoke with heat at staggered temps.


~Ann





30 November 2022, 03:46
DesertRam
Not sure how a pellet grill/smoker would work for sausage smoking, but I've grilled and smoked all kinds of stuff on my Pit Boss - steaks, chops, chicken, ribs, roasts, leg of lamb, mac and cheese, etc. Works like a champ.


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30 November 2022, 07:28
Michael Robinson
Ann, I have not heard of a smoke tube. I will look into it.

Sounds like less than I really want, though.

I’m looking for something that will smoke a dry rubbed beef brisket low and slow for ten to twelve hours.

So good.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
30 November 2022, 09:22
Norman Conquest
Kinda along the same lines, I recommend the Book, "The Master Butcher's Singing Club", by Louise Erdrich. It is the story of a German immigrant after war 1 that comes to America + builds up his fortune from his German roots of sausage making, + oh so much more. A very good read! One of my favorites from our book club.
30 November 2022, 16:03
Bill/Oregon
Mike, something like this one. I have used one on my Weber Genesis to cold-smoke cheese, and with the Weber going, to put some smoke into a pork butt, etc. It's no substitute for a real smoker, though.

https://www.amazon.com/Smoke-T...-1516679065912&psc=1


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30 November 2022, 18:12
Saeed
Fascinating!

Normal people eat proper meat.

Not some funny variety made up of bits and pieces!

Normal people avoid smoking.

And you lot want to smoke your food!

Bloody hell!

What next?? clap


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30 November 2022, 21:32
Michael Robinson
quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Mike, something like this one. I have used one on my Weber Genesis to cold-smoke cheese, and with the Weber going, to put some smoke into a pork butt, etc. It's no substitute for a real smoker, though.

https://www.amazon.com/Smoke-T...-1516679065912&psc=1


Ah, now I get it. I have used a flat baking pan with aluminum foil wrapped apple or hickory wood chips to do the same thing.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
30 November 2022, 21:33
Saeed
Your next sausage


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30 November 2022, 21:33
Michael Robinson
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Fascinating!

Normal people eat proper meat.

Not some funny variety made up of bits and pieces!

Normal people avoid smoking.

And you lot want to smoke your food!

Bloody hell!

What next?? clap



Saeed, don't knock it 'til you've tried it! Big Grin


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
30 November 2022, 21:42
Michael Robinson
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Your next sausage


Haha! Reminds me of the Pepsi Challenge. rotflmo

Or better yet, the red wine challenge done years ago on the streets of Paris, where random, and then selected, connoisseur, tasters overwhelmingly preferred California to French wines!


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
01 December 2022, 01:55
Aspen Hill Adventures
Okay, saw this clever idea. Guy makes his own pucks for his Bradley Original. He says they work great.



I live in the land of hickory and honey and can easily do this.


~Ann





01 December 2022, 17:09
Bill/Oregon
Well I'll be darned. And they burn properly, eh? Pretty clever.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
01 December 2022, 18:29
Aspen Hill Adventures
Several guys have mentioned that this method works just fine in those Bradley's! Only one person said he mixes their pucks with his wood slices.


~Ann





02 December 2022, 02:39
Michael Robinson
Pretty cool, Ann.

The hickory and apple wood chips I have seen and used are pretty dry.

Does it matter if those pucks are green or wet? Do you have to dry them out?


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
02 December 2022, 04:13
miles58
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Fascinating!

Normal people eat proper meat.

Not some funny variety made up of bits and pieces!

Normal people avoid smoking.

And you lot want to smoke your food!

Bloody hell!

What next?? clap


You've never had venison jerky that has been smoked? No smoked jerky from any of the plains game? No smoked salmon? No smoked chicken or turkey? No liquor from charred barrels? I cannot go hunting or fishing without a decent supply of smoked food and beverage! Not even for a day trip.
02 December 2022, 04:17
Aspen Hill Adventures
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
Pretty cool, Ann.

The hickory and apple wood chips I have seen and used are pretty dry.

Does it matter if those pucks are green or wet? Do you have to dry them out?


I'm not sure, Mike. I know store bought packaged stuff is dry. Some green might be good? Good question but new territory for me.


~Ann





02 December 2022, 07:15
JTEX
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
Ann, I have not heard of a smoke tube. I will look into it.

Sounds like less than I really want, though.

I’m looking for something that will smoke a dry rubbed beef brisket low and slow for ten to twelve hours.

So good.


Check out Cook Shack electric smokers. I've had one for ten years, awesome for brisket and pork butts!