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18 October 2010, 05:13
J_ZolaTrue American roadster
All 63hp of single barrel, three on the floor fun.
18 October 2010, 13:03
Idaho SharpshooterOkay, you get the prize. Until somebody shows their Allard. Replicas permitted.
Rich
18 October 2010, 16:13
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Okay, you get the prize. Until somebody shows their Allard. Replicas permitted.
Rich
My money's on the Jeep when the pavement ends!

"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
18 October 2010, 17:52
shakariOne of the areas I've been hunting for 30 years had/has 3 of those. A few years ago, they hired a manager to run the place and he fancied himself as a bit of a mechanic...... he stripped all 3 down to every nut and bolt and when he realised he couldn't put them back together again, he did a midnight flit, never to be seen again!
The owner still has all the panels, a huge box of bits and 3 chassis' sitting in his workshop.
A real bloody shame huh!

18 October 2010, 18:30
eezridrAmazing to see a old Willy's jeep next to a new one. The originals were small in comparison. I just saw on the other day, all restored with Army insignia and all. Pretty neat.
EZ
18 October 2010, 23:06
Idaho SharpshooterThe Original ATV!
Rich
18 October 2010, 23:39
shakariAnd despite the Range Rover claims, Jeep were the first (by 6 or 7 years at least) to produce the first luxury 4x4 when they introduced the Wagoneer in 1963.
Jeep produced some fantastic vehicles but their sales and publicity skills were bloody useless back then.

18 October 2010, 23:49
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by shakari:
And despite the Range Rover claims, Jeep were the first (by 6 or 7 years at least) to produce the first luxury 4x4 when they introduced the Wagoneer in 1963.
Jeep produced some fantastic vehicles but their sales and publicity skills were bloody useless back then.
Yup, the first SUV -- so to speak!
"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
19 October 2010, 00:27
shakariLots of 1sts.
1st SUV
1st luxury SUV
1st auto 4x4
1st air con 4x4
1st cruise control 4x4
Oh and worst PR team in automotive history.

I take your point though.

19 October 2010, 00:35
shakariI'll add that the Wagoneer holds the record for the longest production run ever.
They made them for 28 years with nothing more than minor changes in all that time.
19 October 2010, 04:23
J_ZolaRich, I checked, the Allard is english with a American V-8. Aka early Cobra,neat car. If you look at the second picture you can see a rear PTO shaft. Not many roadster can turn a pump or run a sawmill and then take your date to the movies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allard19 October 2010, 07:14
Strut10quote:
Originally posted by shakari:
Lots of 1sts.
1st SUV
1st luxury SUV
1st auto 4x4
1st air con 4x4
1st cruise control 4x4
Oh and worst PR team in automotive history.

I take your point though.
1st SUV??
I do believe the Chevy Suburban takes that prize.............. 1933.
Founder....the OTPG
19 October 2010, 08:13
J_ZolaBut the chevy suburban was not four wheel drive until much later.
19 October 2010, 09:11
shakariI think you'll find that the first 4x4 was built in about 1911 by the Four Wheel Drive Auto Company in Clintonville Wisconsin.
People argue about the exact date but the first one was called the Badger and was supposed to have been built somewhere between about 1908-1911...... and FWIW most people plump for the later date which I think was when the builders went properly commercial.
Incidentally, the track of the early vehicles were the same as the railway gauge of the day so the wheels could be changed and put on a railway line.
How's that for useless information!

20 October 2010, 23:21
ddrhookWe always suspected you where full of it now we know for sure

24 October 2010, 05:00
FlagsMy grandfather still has a 1949 Willys with the flathead 4 cyl engine and the original 6 volt electrical system. I've been trying to talk him out of it for more than 30 years and he won't dream of letting it go.
Hell, he's only 99 years old this July. Maybe someday he'll decide he won't use it anymore.
As a side note,he did give me his 1970 Ford F-250 and overhead camper this year. Maybe there's hope after all.
13 December 2010, 22:10
wympleI grew up with a 48 Willy's, it was only listed as I recall at 38 HP. My brother still has it.
14 December 2010, 19:23
BriceI happen to know where there are a bunch of Wagoneers in MT, if anyone is interested.
14 December 2010, 19:40
shakariquote:
Originally posted by Brice:
I happen to know where there are a bunch of Wagoneers in MT, if anyone is interested.
You know how to break a man's heart!
I've been waiting for bloody weeks for a package of spares from the US and they still haven't arrived
That said, I have Wagoneer fans in that neck of the woods so if you'd like to PM me with the relevent contact details, I'll pass them on!

14 December 2010, 21:26
Idaho SharpshooterOne of my Uncles had an Willys Overland(?) SUV-thingy. I remember going fishing with him and my Father and being amazed that he could take the key out of the ignition driving down the road to use his "church key" to open bottles of pop for all of us without the engine dying.
Rich
