The Accurate Reloading Forums
Question on bullet and range ?

This topic can be found at:
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9611043/m/44610117

28 September 2003, 15:05
.358
Question on bullet and range ?
I shot my TC black diamond SS last thursday Shot an inch high at 100 yds. I have never shot it at any distance so I put up a couple of milk jugs at 125 and 150 yds to my amazement I actually hit both with a dead on hold. Don't they drop more than that with a one inch high setting ? Load was 2 pellets (100grns) with the TC black mag sabot.

Next, has anyone actually shot a deer with this bullet and what were the results ? Unfortunately I've never had the opportunity as some how my tags get filled before Black Powder season in Mo. But, I keep it sighted in just in case.
29 September 2003, 04:33
HenryC470
I am convinced that open sights can fool you. You will generally hit low in bright sunlight and high at dusk. The sight pictures at 100 and 150 yards are difficult to compare. It's much easier to judge when you're holding dead on at 100 than at 150 yards. You may unintentionally be holding a little differently because of how you interpret a sight picture. I am pretty sure I do. Not that this is a problem, because the effect is generally (with 12 gauge and 375 caliber slugs) to make my shooting appear artificially flatter.

H. C.
29 September 2003, 05:11
.358
Thanks for the information. But, I was using a scope as I can't see open sights anymore(legal in MO)
29 September 2003, 15:19
Bud H
What weight bullet, what caliber, what velocity. These new in-lines are quite good out to 150 and even 200 yards with the right combination.
29 September 2003, 18:34
hunter_fish
I have to believe that with the 100 grain charge and a "240gr." ?? bullet that if 1 inch high at a 100 yds it would be somewhat like 3-4 inches low at 150. But with todays muzzleloaders a 150 yard zero is possible with about 2 inches high at the extreme and only about 8-10 inches low at 200 yards.
01 October 2003, 05:00
.358
The load was a 24o grn black mag sabot (30 in a box at walmart) and 2 50 grn pellets of pyrodex. I'm still amazed I could hit a milk jug at that range with a slightly above center hold.
Also would like to know if anyone has used this bullet on deer and what kind of result they got. Thanks, Carl
01 October 2003, 13:49
TCLouis
Making some wild assumptions of velocity and less so for the BC it seems reasonable that you were about 2.5-3.5 inches low at 150 which would still plug a mik jug.

I am assuming 1850 fps and that might actually be low and an average kind of BC from a 44 mag pistol bullet.

LouisB
01 October 2003, 16:48
Bud H
.358
I don't really know about the TC mag sabot, but I had been using the hornady XTP 240 grain on deer for years with excellent results. Usually turns the "boiler room" into mush at ranges from 15 to 125 yards.
10 October 2003, 10:52
Omega
quote:
Originally posted by .358:
Also would like to know if anyone has used this bullet on deer and what kind of result they got. Thanks, Carl

The T/C Black Mag Express Sabot is made by Hornady for T/C. Hornady's version is the XTP. The picture is of 240 grain Hornady XTP bullets from two moose kills. Sandi and I used our Omega 50 cals with 100 grains of powder (2 pellets) behind these sabots. Hers on the left weighs 221gr mine 227gr. She shot 120 yards and I 90. Both bulls went less than 15 yards before going down. Very impressed with the bullets and the gun.

Rich
 -