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Beginner question: conicals vs. ball in a traditional ML

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10 September 2003, 13:23
Doublegun
Beginner question: conicals vs. ball in a traditional ML
The decisions between traditional and in-line is a personal one, to be sure, but how about the decision to go with a faster twist (conical) vs a slower one (ball) in a traditional gun?

The Lyman Great Plains Rifle vs. the Great Plains Hunter, for example. Are conicals that much superior to round ball in a traditional gun for hunting situations? Is it accuracy, velocity or effective range? I am not talking about target shooting, strictly hunting with a traditional gun.

Thanks.
10 September 2003, 15:40
muzzle
All things being equal the conical will shoot more accurately than a round ball. It is a much more stable projectile due to it's shape. The other advantage is it's weight. It has superior energy if the velocities are the same, it does take more powder to get that velocity but it does retain velocity better. In most hunting situations I think the conical makes a better hunting bullet. However, I've never lost an elk or a deer when using a roundball (7 elk so far). Go with whichever you want just remember to get in practice with the one you decide on.
11 September 2003, 02:56
Brent
[Double, the Lymans GP, comes in a slow twist for ball as well as a fast twist and perhaps an even faster twist for sabots. The ball twist is there for sure however.

Brent

PS. I prefer ball for target shooting out to 100 yds, for deer it's fine, for moose, I've risked it, but found no moose so I can't say it sufficed. However, most of the big game in the east was exterminated with .40 and .45 roundball guns in the late 18th century and into the early 19th century.
11 September 2003, 12:10
hawky
My rifle has a twist of 1 in 48", and will shoot eather bullets or balls very accuratly. I prefer to use round balls in my .50 cal for deer hunting. But, if I was shooting elk or moose, I would use a bullet, or get a .54 and go with the bigger ball.
13 September 2003, 09:51
<eldeguello>
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Are conicals that much superior to round ball in a traditional gun for hunting situations?
No, they're NOT!! In a .50 or larger, for deer hunting anyway, out to 100 yards, a properly loaded patched round ball is plenty good enough! And, they are very accurate with a load a particular rifle likes!!
15 September 2003, 20:43
jsr
if you'r gonna get a GPR or the Hunter you can get additional BBLs for $125 from http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/ I just got a 50 cal GPR and will pick up a 1 in 32 and a 54 cal as the bank account allows.
Jeff