07 October 2018, 10:03
cal pappasRemingtion rolling block info wanted
Gents:
My first rifle my dad gave me as a boy, about 1960, was a Remington rolling block. It was a New York issue with the large hammer and a half cock safety. Three barrel bands with a sling loop on the front band and the other on the trigger guard. Caliber was .50-70 and with a cleaning rod.
Are these still out there? If so I'd like to find one. Average condition is fine as I'm not a collector, but all original and a shiny bore as it will be shot (a lot). Of course, brass, dies, and a shell holder, too, if possible.
What would one expect to pay?
Any historical info would also be appreciated.
Cheers, all and thanks for looking.
Cal
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07 October 2018, 19:20
HuviusCal, they seem to go from around $600 up to a couple grand for a nice one.
The Swedish rifles are cheaper but I'm not sure if they are really 50/70.
I have one but I haven't shot it and iirc, it was cheap. Something like $350 with dies. The stock does have a crack which I want to fix but the bore is good with quite deep rifling.
07 October 2018, 20:44
HuviusJust saw this in an upcoming auction:
http://auctions.morphyauctions..._U_S_-LOT291579.aspxMaybe sell the Springfield to offset the roller.
07 October 2018, 22:08
cal pappasThanks, Huvius.
I will look at Morphy and if you ever want to move your .50-70, Pm or email me.
Cheers,
Cal
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08 October 2018, 04:08
loud-n-boomerHi Cal.
A great reference for the various .50-70 rifles is the "50-70 Shooter’s Handbook" by Croft Barker. Midway has RCBS .50-70 dies and Starline makes excellent brass. The drawback of the RCBS dies (and apparently also the Lyman) is that they are set up for a .510" to .512" diameter bullet and most original guns used a .515" diameter bullet. I have made a new .514" expander for my RCBS dies from a Grade 8 5/8-18 bolt turned using carbide tooling. I have two .50-70s, a rolling block with a .510 bore and a trapdoor with a .515 bore, so need both size expanders.
10 October 2018, 22:08
The Dane http://www.militaryrifles.com/MAINIndx.htmThe Swedish 12,7x44R cartridge is different enough from the 50-70 so that they are'nt interchangeable.
11 October 2018, 06:46
cal pappasThanks, all, for your posts.
Cal
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Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska
www.CalPappas.comwww.CalPappas.blogspot.com1994 Zimbabwe
1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
2000 Australia
2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
2013 Australia
2016 Zimbabwe
2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
2019 South Africa
2019 Botswana
2019 Zimbabwe vacation
2021 South Africa
2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later)
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