One of these more desireable than the other? Why? Pros/cons of each?

Thanks!

The usual Browning "highwall" is loaded with lawyer proofing gadgets and really should not be disassembled by the owner without special tools (pins, retainers, etc.) and a set of instructions. Such a kit is available for about $25. A "real" (origional or accurate replica) Winchester 1885 highwall is easy to disassemble for cleaning and has no unnecessary parts. The Browning is a nice rifle but I can't think of one "pro" for it (except $?) compared to the Winchester.

Very interesting. I think I'm starting to get it.

Must keep looking.....

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Such a kit is available for about $25.

Where can find this kit?
And I understood that most of the changes to the Miroku made repros are due to ease of manufacturing (not all attorney driven )

The 1885 Browning is changed from the previous B78 since that one IIRC had some trigger problems .The 1885 is beautifully made by Miroku with Badger barrel as I understand.It can be taken apart without a kit .I made other mods.It's really a gem in 45-70 !!PM me if you want some detailed info. The original is a much simpler design, without some of the safety features ,though I can't tell you who makes a good one.

Yete/Mete...

The kit is available (or was about 6 mo ago) from John Stepp (530) 365-7036 and is $25.00. This is from a ad in the Single Shot Exchange magazine.
My last silhouette rifle was a Browning 1885 BPCR "highwall" in 40/65. A very nice rifle with a great Badger barrel. It has been replaced with a C. Sharps Arms 1885 highwall (also with a Badger barrel) in 45-70. Again the Browning (especially the BPCR model) is a very good rifle but the C. Sharps highwall, to me, is nicer in every way and is easily disassembled for cleaning.

Well, it has been some time since I played with my Browning '85s, so the memory may be dim. However, I just bought one of the Davidson's '85 Creedmore Winchesters in .45-90. The real difference seems to be that the Winchester does not have a rebounding hammer, and has a longer barrel than the .45-70 or .40-65. All of them have great wood.

I much prefer the original Win 1885 which was made up to about WWI. A much simpler action. The main flaw is the stock is held on by tangs not by a stock bolt, but this is easily fixed.

I've been enjoying a couple of the Cimarron/Uberti's the past several years. The 30-40 Krag will shoot under an inch at 100 and under 2" at 200. I built a 15lb 50-110 on one last year and it is about as accurate.

Soldily made, and the new DST PG Deluxe is really accurate in 38-55

Rich
DRSS

My brother has a high wall Browning 45-70. I have a high wall Winchester 45-90. They were both built for BPCR. About everything is identical except my 45-90 has a couple inches longer barrel -- Identical sights, both Badger barrels, identical stocks etc. The prices on the Brownings ski-rocketed from about $800 to about $2,000 in a very short time. The Winchesters seemed to have started at about $2,000 and stayed there. ????