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Small Falling Block Actions?
27 October 2015, 04:28
dwheelsSmall Falling Block Actions?
Does anyone currently make a small falling block single shot action? I've had an itch to make a relatively small walk around single shot for some time now. It seems to me that Falling block works or someone with a similar name used to make a scaled down action. The largest round I'd consider would be a 250 savage but I would probably go with something that had a smaller cartridge base. The .223 group, maybe even a hornet or bee. but the .221 would be a better choice. Oh well I'm second guessing myself now, back to the action. are there any out there? A low wall would be the biggest I'd consider.
27 October 2015, 05:00
richjI wish someone would bring the little Fraser back (with the bugs worked out).
27 October 2015, 05:52
meteIn the 1930s Fritz Langenhan of Zella-Mehlis made a fine 22LR falling block .
Mine is still taking it's share of squirrels and chucks !!
27 October 2015, 07:02
HuviusThis was a little falling block made in the '80s.
IIRC, it was called a Daniel Frazer, not to be confused with the classic Daniel Fraser rifles of the late 19th century.
They were commisioned by Thad Scott and sold complete in 22lr or 22 Hornet or as a kit through Cape Outfitters.
I don't remember exactly what the issues mechanically were but the steel was not up to scratch. You still find them around on occasion usually in the $600 range.
That is the story on those as I remember it.
27 October 2015, 10:05
Idaho SharpshooterI nearly bought one from Axtell several years ago.
They were just such a mess...
Rodney Storey also had some nice casting sets for various SS from the 19th century. Nicely done, but he could never provide any drawings or instructions.
The FBW were likely the best...
27 October 2015, 20:22
Aaron LittleBailey Bradshaws single shot actions get pretty small. around $2k in price for the action. If you have any questions I am very familiar with them as I used to work with Bailey. One can have a complete rifle commissioned by him or I for around $7500.
Here is a 7x57r. He has an action slightly smaller for .22hornet.
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27 October 2015, 22:01
PeglegAllen Hall made a falling block action and when he showed me the proto-type he mentioned he was going to work up a smaller version. Don't know if he did but what I saw was pretty damn neat.
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29 October 2015, 01:22
WJWYou may want to look at Martin Hagn's actions - made in miniature, small, medium and large. The miniature is 1 3/4 inches deep, a little less in visible length on the side when stocked and just over an inch thick.
29 October 2015, 17:04
MHC_TXHagn makes a Mini version falling block action and it is scaled for the .22rf to .223 class. I'm currently having a .223Rem built on one of those actions.
29 October 2015, 18:14
ColoradoMattI briefly posted pics of a barrelled action and a similar rifle from Martin Hagns website after this post was first posted. I decided to delete my post because the pics were not mine. The barrelled action he has in 22hornet is $3000, which is $1200 less than his advertised price.
Matt
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29 October 2015, 22:58
MHC_TXquote:
Originally posted by ColoradoMatt:
I briefly posted pics of a barrelled action and a similar rifle from Martin Hagns website after this post was first posted. I decided to delete my post because the pics were not mine. The barrelled action he has in 22hornet is $3000, which is $1200 less than his advertised price.
I asked Martin about that 22 Hornet barreled action and he said it's been SOLD....he just left the pictures up as an example.
30 October 2015, 02:01
Texas KillartistMr. Little, I had to study the pictures you posted. I thought you had posted pictures of my rifle, but mine does not have a front sight.
Bailey makes a very fine falling block (and very accurate). I'm glad I found him when I did.
30 October 2015, 10:03
dwheelsWow Aaron, Bailey's or rather your rifle is beautiful. Now that I've retired it will be hard to justify the price. I tell my wife it's like putting money in the bank, if you take good care of them they don't go down in value. The little Fraser looks good finished but the other pictures of it look like it would take me forever to get it done.
04 November 2015, 17:39
AkshooterI have a EA Brown, mine is a pistol but he makes it in a rifle version called the model 97. The quality of mine is really good. I might get one in a rifle some day. Another option is always the contender carbine. I've always thought they were a little odd looking but I finally let myself get over that and built one up this summer. Turned out being just the light and compact rifle I was wanting.
Here's the link to the model 97.
http://m.eabco.com/97ref.html
DRSS
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05 November 2015, 09:34
dwheelsFrom What I've seen posted so far, I like Bailey's action. I'll have to see what I can sell to get it done. I'm sure that the Martini Action is like jewelry also. I'll have to talk to both before I pull the trigger. Thanks all for your advise, DW
05 November 2015, 09:44
dwheelsI forgot to mention that at one time I had three Contender actions and a TCR83. I had 22lr match,
6mm 30-30, Hornet. .223 on both the Contender frame and the TCR, .243, 270, 44 mag, I still have two actions and two barrels. I have always, at least a long time ago, wanted a little falling block with a half round half octagon barrel and a piece of really nice English walnut I have in the closet. I'm pushing 69 and think I ought to get it done.
05 November 2015, 11:34
Rockdocquote:
Originally posted by Aaron Little:
Bailey Bradshaws single shot actions get pretty small. around $2k in price for the action. If you have any questions I am very familiar with them as I used to work with Bailey. One can have a complete rifle commissioned by him or I for around $7500.
Here is a 7x57r. He has an action slightly smaller for .22hornet.
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That's lovely! Thanks Aaron. And Bailey!
DRSS
19 November 2015, 05:49
asdfI've handled a .222 rifle built on the original Hagn miniature action. It was the most delightful rifle I've ever picked up. It was dreamy light and the action was incredibly slick--I worked it with a flick of a single finger while holding it as if I'd just taken a shot.
I haven't convinced myself I "need" to put that much money into any rifle, but the thought pops into my mind every month.
19 November 2015, 06:31
Grenadierquote:
Originally posted by Huvius:
This was a little falling block made in the '80s.
IIRC, it was called a Daniel Frazer, not to be confused with the classic Daniel Fraser rifles of the late 19th century.
They were commisioned by Thad Scott and sold complete in 22lr or 22 Hornet or as a kit through Cape Outfitters.
I don't remember exactly what the issues mechanically were but the steel was not up to scratch. You still find them around on occasion usually in the $600 range.
That is the story on those as I remember it.
They seem to work out just fine in 22LR but apparently the steel and firing pins weren't up to the job in the centerfire version.
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19 November 2015, 08:00
sandy lakerIs the Browning model 1885 Low Wall too big?
05 December 2015, 02:27
HarryI got Ralf Martini to build me a beautiful falling block in calibler 223. Hopefully you can still see it on his site under Mims rifle.
It is tiny and beautimost

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16 December 2015, 22:45
Idaho SharpshooterHarry,
slight redirect; did you ever build a rifle on the Magnum Mauser action you bought from me? PM me if you would...
Rich
in Idaho
17 December 2015, 02:35
AtkinsonI see no reason not to use a Ruger no. 1, and I have seen one scaled down on a mill that was awesome looking little gun, but I would just use a no. 1 as it comes from the factory, its strong as hell, and faultless IMO..Makes a neat little 250 SAvage I the No.1 A featherweight, and would save you a grand or two in cost..
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
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Filer, Idaho, 83328
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