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26 July 2005, 11:59
Gimpy
New No.1
Just brought home first Ruger. Got a 1B in 243 Win. Going to shoot tomorrow AM. Know the purists here are gonna howl, but I bought a stainless with laminate stock. Did this mainly because wife saw it and flipped. Since keeping her is just about as important as getting my first #1 I bowed to her wishes! Actually, I kinda like the idea of stainless, living in a fairly humid climate. The Ruger manual has the usual disclaimers about glass bedding or other alterations, so I wondered how long you'd advise me to delay any accuracy tweaks, since this is a new gun. Other advice also welcomed. Thanks.
26 July 2005, 18:15
butchloc
I usually rebed the forend and do a trigger job before I fire a shot
26 July 2005, 19:05
Jim in Idaho
Just another point of view.

I usually fire a bunch of shots before doing anything. Just bought a new Ruger 1A in 7X57, read the top post here:
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/C...7/an/0/page/1#521317

A NIB rifle with NOTHING done to it, no trigger job, no bedding, no tweaking, nothing, and it fired three groups that averaged .508".

Try it first, if it shoots you're that much further ahead.


Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery!
Hit the target, all else is twaddle.
26 July 2005, 20:53
Gimpy
My frst impulse is to at least check firing & function prior to tweaking in case I had to return to Ruger for something and they refuse 'cuz guns been altered. Another question about sizing cases. Do you like a definite "feel" on the lever when chambering resized cases or do you like an easy fit? I have some cases fired and resized (neck) from another 243. They fit, but not real loosely. Or would you just FL size all & start from scratch? Thanks for input.
27 July 2005, 00:10
Paul B
Well, if you feel the need for rapid fire, just full length resize them and forget about it. Normally, I'll either neck size or partially resize them. If you can tilt the rifle's muzzle downward and the shell slides all the way it without help, that's the way it should be for hunting purposes. At the range, a little snugnes won't hurt as long as it's not too snug to chamber.
Paul B.
27 July 2005, 01:25
El Deguello
quote:
Originally posted by Gimpy:
Just brought home first Ruger. Got a 1B in 243 Win. Going to shoot tomorrow AM. Know the purists here are gonna howl, but I bought a stainless with laminate stock. Did this mainly because wife saw it and flipped. Since keeping her is just about as important as getting my first #1 I bowed to her wishes! Actually, I kinda like the idea of stainless, living in a fairly humid climate. The Ruger manual has the usual disclaimers about glass bedding or other alterations, so I wondered how long you'd advise me to delay any accuracy tweaks, since this is a new gun. Other advice also welcomed. Thanks.


I invariably test ANY new rifle, to include trying to develop accurate loads for it, BEFORE "fixing" anything!!


"Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen."
27 July 2005, 21:12
Gimpy
Thanks to all.
27 July 2005, 21:25
458RugerNo1
Take it to the range and shoot it as-is before doing anything to it. As stated above by Jim in the case of his .508" out of the box groupings... What on earth would you have to fix with that rifle? You're more likely to screw it up than improve on that kind of performance if it's shooting that well!

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" obviously applies if you're lucky enough to have a rifle shoot and perform well for you as-is. Then also if it does have a significant problem that's a factory repair issue you'll have no trouble throwing it back at Ruger to make it right.

Let us know how it goes after you get back from the range... The #1 is a great rifle.


.22 LR Ruger M77/22
30-06 Ruger M77/MkII
.375 H&H Ruger RSM
03 August 2005, 17:59
280SWE
Hi Jim in Idaho!

My #1-A in 7x57 shoots lovelly too....


Handle bullets weight from 140.160grs very fine, most inside 1" from 100yds.
The only that I done is a piece neoprenrubber in the fore end, hope it takeaway some vibrations from the firing pin spring!?!
Make first a lot of loading to find the best load, if not happy.
Try one changing with the "best load", you need a reference load.


With Sierra GameKing and Barnes TSX 140grs it´s look like this, 2750fps from 22"

My 7x57 and 22" barrel really love Norma 203-B, shoots 1/2inch better than the slower Norma 204 and Accurate 4350.


http://communities.msn.se/280RemingtonSweden
03 August 2005, 23:00
fla3006
Gimpy, congrats on your purchase of the Ruger #1, one of the great rifles of all time.


NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS.
Shoot & hunt with vintage classics.
04 August 2005, 08:07
AZCoues
Its great to see some avid No1 fans here. Me, too, and I have been ever since my first one in 1968. I still have it although it has gained some mates in the gunsafe.

I will clean a new rifle before going to the range, check the buttstock bolt and forearm screw for proper tension and then head out with any moderate load for a shoot and clean session. Resultant groups can tell a lot about whether to leave the rifle alone or what type of tweaking may be needed. For example, if groups are horizontal or verticle, different approaches may be used for correction.

Your wife has good taste! I got my latest No1 in stainless/laminated -- a 416 Rigby. Boy are those prairie dogs in for it!!
04 August 2005, 09:47
Gimpy
Haven't been back here for a while, so thanks for the additional replies. Its been hot here, so been getting 3 shot groups (not 5) circa. 1.2 inches at 135 yds. It ain't gonna be a tack driver like Jim's, I guess, but I'm not disappointed. The first day the ring nuts came loose after about 7-8 shots. Lock-tite fixed that. Shooting 70 gr. TNT's w/IMR4064.

AZCoues - what do you mean "proper tension" on the stock bolt? Is there a torque spec. on it? I'd like to check into that. Watched that car chase today in Phoenix on faux news. Pretty neat ending. Wife's got kin down your way. Adios.
05 August 2005, 09:01
AZCoues
Proper tension: Some NIB Rugers I have purchased have had buttstock bolts that were barely beyond snug. I make sure they are tight is all.
06 August 2005, 08:04
Gimpy
Thanks. I'll check that
07 August 2005, 07:19
Stonewall
Brass is cheap-buy some new Winchester brass for your new gun and see if there is a difference.Try a few different loads Imr-4350 works well.A #1 will tell you if your hold isn't the same each time.Sounds like you are having fun.
07 August 2005, 07:45
Stonewall
Another thing I would check out are the scope rings.Mount them and lightly lapp them [Sinclairs kit]to see how they line up.Break the edge of the rings after with a round stone-no marks.Some Ruger sets are not in line and can stress the scope. Just something to check when you mount any scope.The little things add up .
I wish they had finished the stainless#1 with their target grey finish though.
08 August 2005, 05:17
invader66
Love the #1. Mine is 458 Lott and it is the only
single shot I own. Problem is it looks so lonely.So I'm looking for him a mate. Big Grin


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08 August 2005, 07:38
Gimpy
Unfortunately I'm retired, lack funds to satisfy a potential addiction. Mine will have to remain "single." Big Grin
07 September 2005, 16:04
nt
quote:
Originally posted by invader66:
Love the #1. Mine is 458 Lott and it is the only
single shot I own. Problem is it looks so lonely.So I'm looking for him a mate. Big Grin


My .25-06 #1 had the same problem (lonely) so I brought another #1 in .458 WinMag then rechambered it to .458 Lott now everyone is happy.
08 September 2005, 00:53
Paul B
quote:
Originally posted by AZCoues:

Your wife has good taste! I got my latest No1 in stainless/laminated -- a 416 Rigby. Boy are those prairie dogs in for it!!


You sure you have enough gun? jump
Actually, I was thinking about the look on your face when you see the price of ammunition. Eeker bawling
Another suggestion. Replace that idiotic POS Ruger calls a butt pad. You'll be glad you did. The gun isn't too bad from the offhand position, but wait till you pop one off from the bench. thumbdown
Paul B.
08 September 2005, 23:18
KWard
I have three no 1's, a 1B in 30-06, 1V in .220 swift, and a #1International in .270. other than trigger adjustments( with the factory trigger) I have not had to do anything to them and they are all great shooters.
09 September 2005, 08:58
D99
Here's my fix and you can still keep t he warrenty.

Take two small thin gaskets and place them fore and aft of the forend screw. In between the barrel and the wood.

This free floats the barrel and works about 75% of the time to fix those wondering zero issues these rifles often have.

The best part about it is it's cheap, and doesn't perminantly alter the forend.