20 March 2004, 14:04
Paul BRe: Prices for used Ruger #1s? I don't get it.
Chuck. I decided to ask around, primarily on The Ruger Forum. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on that site including some serious collectors.
here is a copy of the E-mail I received from one of the people that go there.
"I used to be a member of TRF but gave it up because of a hacker attack on my email and other accounts. I am compiling info for a new book on the Ruger No1 which I hope to publish later this year if I can get enough Photos.
To answer your question to the best of my research, there were approximately 450 rifles made in the 404 Jeffrey. It was discontinued because of non-standard ammunition amongst the Ammo companies. The ammo was not to SAMI standards that the rifles were chambered to. Some of the rifles were scrapped and others were replaced with a like cost item. The factory will not give any information about quantities of rifles made or anything other than a ship date and configuration of a certain serial number.
Hope this helps you."
Guess this give a pretty good idea of why there is such a scarcity of these rifles. I knew about the ammo problem so take the trouble to use a cast bullet to fireform my brass to my chamber, then set up the dies accordingly. I haven't had a problem since. I just wish the guy I got it from hadn't put on that muzzle brake. I hate muzzle breaks.
Paul B.
21 March 2004, 01:17
ChuckWagonOk I have a dumb question

What is the purpose of the Alexander Henry fore arm, ? Is it just cosmetic or is their some purpose. I see the 38-55 has the same front stock.
21 March 2004, 04:42
Paul BIt's a style designed by the gunmaker Alexander Henry. He was one of the Scottish??? gunmakers in the Victorian era and that type distinctive forearm was, I guess kind of a trademake for him. He made single shot and double rifles, with the one shooters I believe, in Farquharsen type actions. I've only seen one of his single shot rifles at a gun show, in IIRC a .450 caliber of some sort. Rifle was beautifully cased, and minty as hell. Price was $4,500 firm. Being the single shot nut that I am, I sure wanted to take that one home, but I sure didn't have that kind of money on me.
Personally, I much prefer the A. Henry forearm as I think it has the class and lines of those Victorian age single shot rifles, especially on the #1H Tropical rifles.
I guess you would have to say that they are more cosmetic than anything else, as they serve no special function, other than "lookin' good".

Paul B.
21 March 2004, 10:30
Hillbilly HunterThe 38-55 poses a bit of a problem to shoot also. Apparently, a run of 500 was made for the Cast Bullet Shooters Assoc. whom requested an oversize bore. Mine miked .379. A recently found .380 300gr Sarco mould has solved that problem

21 March 2004, 11:59
ChuckWagonWouldn't .379" be the correct size for a 38-55 ? Laser Cast makes a 240 Gr RNFP in .380. $80 per 1,000 pieces. How does yours shoot ? I am really drawn to that 38-55

21 March 2004, 12:40
Bad Ass WallaceI built my own No.1 in 38/55 with .375/1in 14" twist to shoot the Lyman 335gn plain based bullet. With 16gn 2400 it will group 2" at 200yards.
Anyone know what twist the Ruger factory has.
23 March 2004, 09:53
ChuckWagonI was just lookin at a 38-55 that was at .379. $1300 seemed like a bit much though. I am sure it was one of the 500 hundred mentioned.