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04 May 2009, 00:24
sjmci
Black Powder Onlyve noticed some
I've noticed some of the recent Winchester 1885 reproductions are marked "Black Powder Only". I'm interpreting this to mean that any smokeless loads should not exceed the pressures developed by the original black powder loads. But is there something else that this warning is referring to? Something with the rifling, neck or throat design that would make smokeless loads inaccurate or dangerous? Thanks!
04 May 2009, 01:02
MickinColo
This is only a guess on my part but I would imagine that these rifles have deep cut, fast twist rifling for heavy, long, cast bullets. Designed for competitive (or not) BP shooting. But that’s just a guess on my part. What cartridge are they chambered in?
05 May 2009, 07:33
sjmci
45-90 and 50-90. I think there is a similar warning on the 1886 45-90s.
06 May 2009, 03:15
MickinColo
Very interesting. I would like to check out both the 85 and 86 in 45/90. Where did you see these guns and do you recall the prices?
06 May 2009, 19:12
El Deguello
quote:
Originally posted by sjmci:
I've noticed some of the recent Winchester 1885 reproductions are marked "Black Powder Only". I'm interpreting this to mean that any smokeless loads should not exceed the pressures developed by the original black powder loads. But is there something else that this warning is referring to? Something with the rifling, neck or throat design that would make smokeless loads inaccurate or dangerous? Thanks!


This is patently ridiculous, since any recently produced M1885 is strong enough for any reasonable smokeless loading.


"Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen."
07 May 2009, 01:04
El Deguello
quote:
Originally posted by G.Hansen:
The pressures developed by BP and smokeless differ in that they are developed along vastly different pressure curves (the rates that these powders develop pressure and/or reach maximum pressure) Just thought I'd throw that out. If I was going to ask anybody, I ask Doug Turnbull.

http://www.turnbullrestoration...id=26348&catid=19872


That's correct. BUT the M 1885's made since the turn of the 20th century were all made for smokeless powder ammo.


"Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen."