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18 March 2017, 23:15
Big Wonderful Wyoming
Prinz Waffen Falling block and break open
http://prinz-waffen.de/en/waffen/kipplaufbuechse-no1/

Cool guns, about $8500 out the door for a base gun.

Is a break open gun, but has the strength of a Ruger #1.
19 March 2017, 03:46
drhall762
Now that is different for sure. Break it open and the breach block is cammed down to load and unload. The triple they make and the quadruple are both interesting though I am not sure they are my cup of tea.


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19 March 2017, 10:44
Big Wonderful Wyoming
I adore single shots, so I was over the moon.

I still don't really appreciate the need for it to be a break open gun. I was thinking that it was so you could have more than one barrel, but none of his were set up that way.
26 March 2017, 14:33
Big Bore Fan
I saw it at the IWA. Very heavy, not very well balanced rifle. OK, the rifle I saw, was chambered vor the .338Lapua. But for a classic rimmed single shot round, like the 7x57R or the 8x57IRS, you don´t need such a strong action. The Krieghoff Hubertus is strong enough and well balanced.....

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26 March 2017, 17:00
mdstewart
I think the performance, looks, and style of the Merkel K-3 is probably better, and a third of the price.


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26 March 2017, 20:17
Bill/Oregon
I'll bet regulating that four-barrel model took some time.


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27 March 2017, 01:15
Big Wonderful Wyoming
quote:
Originally posted by Big Bore Fan:
I saw it at the IWA. Very heavy, not very well balanced rifle. OK, the rifle I saw, was chambered vor the .338Lapua. But for a classic rimmed single shot round, like the 7x57R or the 8x57IRS, you don´t need such a strong action. The Krieghoff Hubertus is strong enough and well balanced.....

Martin


Both Oswald and his wife were there and we worked through my new found 50 or so German words and the English they spoke. She handed me a 7x57 model and it was fine.

The strength is the canon system he uses to run the falling block. It is both a break open kiplauf type weapon, but with the added strength of the falling block.

I was impressed with it.

I also handled the 375 and 338 Lapua. Different kind of animal all together. I don't think you could manage a K95 or Hubertus in 338 Lapua.

I figure I'd be into $10,000 by the time I got done with it. Personally I'd rather save that money for an Alpine Ibex.
27 March 2017, 04:27
mdstewart
I apologize. Didn't realize it was a 4-barrel rifle. If this rifle shoots true, it's a damn miracle.


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27 March 2017, 12:50
Big Wonderful Wyoming
quote:
Originally posted by mdstewart:
I apologize. Didn't realize it was a 4-barrel rifle. If this rifle shoots true, it's a damn miracle.


Oswald makes a Vierlings, and a falling block single shot that also happens to break in half like a Blaser K95, Krieghoff Hubertus and Merkel K gun.

As the action opens the block swings down.

The entire receiver is made of steel, unlike the Krieghoff, Merkel and Blaser, which are made of Aluminium and have a steel insert behind the breach.

It has a Blaser type decocker-safety (this is what Oswald said, his words).

I'd own one, but I think I'd rather put money into hunts while I am over here than guns.
28 March 2017, 12:03
Big Bore Fan
The Question ist, do I need a kipplauf chambered for the .338Lapua...... many can be done, with special technics, but is it importend? I shot a few such rifles, mostly Blaser K95, chambered for .300Magnums. Not very funny to shot.....

And the Krieghoff Hubertus receiver is made of steel. There's the option for a light weight, made of aluminium.


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28 March 2017, 14:10
Big Wonderful Wyoming
Hell my K95 is in 30-06, it isn't much fun to shoot.

The 375 he made weighed about 9 pounds. About the same as the Ruger #1 in the same caliber.

I wouldn't be interested in a 338 Lapua. I guess someone was, so he built one.

His scope mount is a bit of a cow. More steel in that than a Toyota.

I have been looking at it, and trying to figure out the why. Why build a falling block into a kiplauf? I don't speak enough German to get the answer, but he said over and over that it was important that it broke down. I agree smaller pieces are better, but for who?

I like it a lot, but I can't tell you why. If you spent that kind of money to build one you would be kind of fucked if you didn't ultimately like it, or worse yet it didn't shoot. No one would know what the hell it is in North America.