has anyone seen one or handled one? is it possible they could duplicate the great 98? what about bulding a 416 rem on this action?

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Originally posted by poulsbo:
has anyone seen one or handled one? is it possible they could duplicate the great 98? what about bulding a 416 rem on this action?

Remington isn’t building these...they stole the contract out from under Charles Daly. The rifles are the exact same action as the Daly’s were.

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Originally posted by poulsbo:
has anyone seen one or handled one? is it possible they could duplicate the great 98? what about bulding a 416 rem on this action?

I have a 416 built on the Interarms iteration of this action and it serves quite well but it does make for a relatively light rifle if you use the factory stock. You will also need to use wider bottom metal to get best feeding.

why does rem have these listed on thier website as "NEW"?

Because they start selling them this year?

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Originally posted by poulsbo:
why does rem have these listed on thier website as "NEW"?

Because they are. They are “new†to the Remington line.

duh, it's early sunday morning i wasn't quite awake when you said that rem wasn't building these i thought they were not building them or offering them, my bad. so who's shot one or handled one, haven't seen anything in the gun rags about them, do you guys think they'll be junk like the 710's.

No, they'll be roughly the same or slightly better than the preceding Charles Daly rifles. That is probably junk to some, just overpriced utility to me.

My opinion...they‘re an imported CRF model 710.

If Remington was really interested in offering something old/new they would reintroduce either the model 30’s or the 720’s...but that ain’t likely to happen anytime soon.

Poulsbo

If you want a nice Mauser to build on, try looking for an older Mark X in hardly used condition and then spend an hour or so with a small set of stones to even things up a bit. You will have a very nice action for relatively little money.

The 798 won't be junk like the 700, or 710!

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The 798 won't be junk like the 700, or 710!

MC are the Remingtons really that bad?

The stock looks a little nicer than the CD version.



Dig this:

"The long-action Model 798â„¢ (square-bridge Mauser 98) features a richly blued barrel and receiver, and American-made brown laminated stock. To dampen recoil, we added a one-inch rubber butt pad. Barrels are clean, and receivers are drilled and tapped for standard Mauser 98 (long- and short-action) scope mounts.

Expect silky, ultra-positive feeding and ejection, rock-solid durability and exceptionally fast lock time. Influencing the design of virtually every bolt action made today, the Model 98 Mauser never died. It just needed a revival. We’re sure you’ll agree our version was worth the wait.



Terry

I tend to agree that the mauser is much better than the 710. I would buy one before shelling out the cash for a 700 as well.

I would like to know if Remington is planning on adding their awesome bolt locking key system, like their other guns have.

If you download their catalog and go to page 32-33 you will see that they fubar'd the bolt, put a dinky little remington style claw extractor on it. I'd take the original charles daly over this POS all day long.

Jer

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Originally posted by Rhys898:
If you download their catalog and go to page 32-33 you will see that they fubar'd the bolt, put a dinky little remington style claw extractor on it. I'd take the original charles daly over this POS all day long.

Jer

Is this their model 798 or the mini mauser 799 that has the small extractor?

From the daly web site:

“Dear Charles Daly patrons:

Our monthly newsletter has not been published for several months due to the fact that the Charles Daly product line has been going through major changes for 2006. We apologize for keeping you in the dark, but the work had to be completed before we could let everybody know what we’ve been up to.

All of the changes that we have made will be incorporated into our website over the next few weeks. Please visit us often over the next few months to see details on all our new products.

One of the first changes you will notice is that we are no longer importing any products from Zastava of Serbia. All of our Mauser and Mini-Mauser bolt action rifles, barreled actions and actions as well as our Superior II rimfire rifles and the ZDA pistols are now discontinued. Zastava has decided to join with Remington Arms for now, so in the very near future you should be able to purchase Mauser (Remington Model 798), Mini-Mauser (Remington Model 799) and Zastava rimfire rifles (Remington Model Five) for approximately 10% more than you were paying for the Charles Daly brand. We don’t think Remington will be selling actions or barreled actions but that remains to be seen. We do know that Remington will not be selling the ZDA pistol.

There are still some inventories of Charles Daly Mausers, Mini-Mausers, actions and barreled actions in the channel of distribution. We suggest you buy them now before you have to pay 10% more for the exact same product, if you can get it at allâ€

It would appear that the actions are the exact same thing that Daly was importing and selling.

They're made by Zastava in Belgrade, Yugoslavia. The same as the interarms mark X of a 15 years ago and the Charles Daly of the last couple of years, no better, no worse. Stamping remington on them does not make them any better than the exact same rifle that had charles daly stamped on it. I bought a charles daly 30-06 and two charles daly actions about two months ago. I gave $270 for the rifle and $210 each for the actions. They were a heck of a bargain at that price, they're a far cry from the quality of a remington 710. They're a good, servicable modern mauser 98, nothing wrong with them at all. The charles daly's were a hell of a deal at their prices, and the remington will still be a decent deal even with their markup. They're fine rifles.

I have a charles daly mauser action that was barreled by Jim Kobe in MN. It is a good action, maybe a bit rough but plenty sturdy. Now that Remington has their name on them I doubt any will find their way into my vault. I expect the price of the 798 will climb past 10% of the Daly.

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Originally posted by OddBall2:
I have a charles daly mauser action that was barreled by Jim Kobe in MN. It is a good action, maybe a bit rough but plenty sturdy. Now that Remington has their name on them I doubt any will find their way into my vault. I expect the price of the 798 will climb past 10% of the Daly.

I drove by his place one day and saw him working with a clothes pin over his nose. It was either your CD mauser he was working on or the Parker Hale aluminum floorplate he was installing in my VZ-24.

Jim is very good and fussy as all get out. I'm sure you will like your mauser.

You guys saying the 798 is a piece and all that.. Most of you haven't even seen the gun and forming an opionion..I see the reliablity in your posts... Besides being the biggest cry baby ever.. Shut up if you haven't owned or used one.. What do you expect Remington to keep the same old thing with no changes??? The cry about how expensive they are?? Thank You for the rest of you writing good reliable honost posts.

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Originally posted by msorenso:
You guys saying the 798 is a piece and all that.. Most of you haven't even seen the gun and forming an opionion..I see the reliablity in your posts... Besides being the biggest cry baby ever.. Shut up if you haven't owned or used one.. What do you expect Remington to keep the same old thing with no changes??? The cry about how expensive they are?? Thank You for the rest of you writing good reliable honost posts.

I don't think it takes too much to deduce that the Rem 798 will be just as much a piece of crap as the CD was. Remmy didn't get into this line to dump a bunch opf money into it. They want to offer CRF rifle at a price point that Wallyworld will embrace.

One thing I will agree with is that these will not be as much a POS that the 710 is.

Seems to me Remington is trying to get away from manufacturing firearms and trying to become an importer and distributor. Their catalog is full of imported firearms. I wish they would tighten up tolerances on the 700 action let the junk go.

all remington is going to do is give themselves a bad name selling a rifle with a piss poor design like the mauser.

You are right they are not going dump to bunch of money into this but I am sure it will be a reliable cfr..I get sick of hearing the pissing and moning all the time over nothing. Oh no they are improting something, i don't like it either but that is the way it is. As for a crap mauser action what???? From what I hear there finacial statement is no barn burner either and do not want to end up like winchester... Which I am still steamed over!

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all remington is going to do is give themselves a bad name selling a rifle with a piss poor design like the mauser.

i'd rather DIE trying to cycle my model 700 upsidedown than shoot a mauser! they are very inaccrate as a rule.

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Originally posted by poulsbo:
i'd rather DIE trying to cycle my model 700 upsidedown than shoot a mauser! they are very inaccrate as a rule.

HUH? Mauser's aren't accurate

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Originally posted by poulsbo:
all remington is going to do is give themselves a bad name selling a rifle with a piss poor design like the mauser.

The Mauser is the most perfect bolt action, ever designed, the Remington 700 is just a cheap ass rifle designed by accountant's!

ya you see soooo many of the 1000 yd boys building rifles on mauser actions.....

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Originally posted by poulsbo:
ya you see soooo many of the 1000 yd boys building rifles on mauser actions.....

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

Terry

it shows the inability to make an accurate mauser, otherwise all the benchrest boys would be using them.

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Originally posted by msorenso:
What do you expect Remington to keep the same old thing with no changes??? .

No, I expect them to place the exact same action in a butt ugly stock, and of course remove the Charles Daly billboard and stamp Remington in it's place. Genius at work

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Originally posted by dempsey:

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Originally posted by msorenso:
What do you expect Remington to keep the same old thing with no changes??? .

No, I expect them to place the exact same action in a butt ugly stock, and of course remove the Charles Daly billboard and stamp Remington in it's place. Genius at work

You know dempsey...if you don’t like Remington why don’t you call them up and complain about it and stop being a prick to people on here.

Sorry, couldn’t resist that!

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Originally posted by poulsbo:
it shows the inability to make an accurate mauser, otherwise all the benchrest boys would be using them.

No it doesn't, I've owned plenty of sub MOA mausers. Most hunting rifle action's don't make good BR actions and the sames goes in reverse. Your logic is flawed.

Terry

What is accurate? I have some Mauser's that are sub 1/2 moa, which is far superior too any hunting needs. 1000yd benchrest isn't hunting On the other hand my Mausers are far more reliable, and durable under adverse conditions than a Rem 700, that is what makes it a superior hunting rifle!

Thank you some people have cluse about the mauser action

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poulsbo

poulsbo ,
I suppose you buy the composite stocks??

I wish Rem. would not have gone off on this "importing" bandwagon.