07 December 2004, 04:11
FjoldMore questions about Talley mounts
I see that Talleys QD rings and mounts are now up to $109 on their website. Does anyone discount them from that?
I have a LH M70 (375 H&H) and a 1X4 Leupold that I'm going to put on it for now. Is there any problem clearing the eyepiece of the scope with the bolt? I figure I'll buy the low rings now and then buy a set of Medium rings when I buy a larger bell scope as a back up.
07 December 2004, 05:10
30ott6Check prices for the rings at both Brownell's and Midway USA. No problem with the bolt clearing. See my thread on Big Bores forum. There's a pic of my M70 with Talley QD rings. Thread is called .416 Atkinson.
John
08 December 2004, 08:27
JC454I have a Model 70, LH 375 with 2.5 x 8 Leupold in low Talley detachable rings. There is no problem with clearance.
17 January 2017, 06:11
vlwtx348quote:
Originally posted by JC454:
I have a Model 70, LH 375 with 2.5 x 8 Leupold in low Talley detachable rings. There is no problem with clearance.
Sorry to resurrect an old post...but did you need an extended or regular front base for that setup?
17 January 2017, 09:06
Fjoldquote:
Originally posted by vlwtx348:
quote:
Originally posted by JC454:
I have a Model 70, LH 375 with 2.5 x 8 Leupold in low Talley detachable rings. There is no problem with clearance.
Sorry to resurrect an old post...but did you need an extended or regular front base for that setup?
I wound up using the regular base for a 2.5-8 x 36mm Leupold.
Wow, that was a long time ago. That gun and scope combo has been to Africa on four different hunts without a problem.
20 January 2017, 02:41
AtkinsonActually the Talley bases are too high as a rule, I use low Talleys on most of my Mod. 70s and Mausers..In fact I shave them on the bottom of the base a good deal, in order to see over them with barrel mounted shallow v. rear sights ala the old Custom Lynn Brownells QDs that Talley may have used as a proto type, I know he and Dave were pals...
20 January 2017, 03:32
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)The original Brownell bases had "teeth" on one side with matching teeth on the soft jaw...pain in the ass to re attach. When Kimber got into the act, they utilized a recoil shoulder instead
Much easier and faster, but t he shoulder raised the line of sight a bit . Talley's are same design but use a 1'2"dovetail instead of the 7/16" used by Brownell and Kimber.
An easy way to lower the line of sight is to use a ball EM on the recoil shoulder (sort of a slot) to see the open sights
20 January 2017, 04:39
AtkinsonMine are very thin and have no teeth, as far as I know they are original or perhaps not Brownells, they have finely machine arms with excellent checkering and much smaller than talleys?? whatcha think..Im pretty sure they aren't Kimbers
21 January 2017, 02:14
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)Original Kimbers wee pretty darn nice..much like Brownell's...I think there was some sort of agreement or sale between Kimber and Brownell
Are they 7/16 dovetail? Any possibility they might be Wisner's. His is also nicely done. I believe Jim offered two different dovetails..maybe Jim can clarify?
21 January 2017, 06:06
J WisnerL Brownell rings have the teeth on the inside of the clamp and the one side of the base dovetail.
Also the center of the outside of the clamp screw is stamped LB
Yes there was an agreement between L Brownell and Jack Warne/ Kimber of Oregon.
The Kimber rings and the parts were cast from mild steel.
So the lever was very nicely shaped, polished and then cross checkered by hand. The rings were also cast, machined and polished. The other thing is the Hex area that the lever attached to the clamping screw has a taper to it, so there are times the lever would lock onto the clamping screw if things were tightened down to tight. The bases had a .050" tall recoil shoulder only in the front.
When I started making the rings about 1989 I had a agreement with Kimber of Oregon that I could make and advertise the sizes they did not make. Mine were fully machined from mild steel thru out. The clamp screw still had the hex but the lever was broached thru straight, NO TAPER.
The levers also had more shaped flats to them, no longer a graceful radius flowing shape. One of the things I had to give up.
I also hand checkered the levers for a number of years
When the Warnes, Jack and Greg, started Warne Mfg after Kimber of Oregon went done in 1992.
They started to fully CNC machine the rings.
They added the small nub on the underside to match up with a groove in the base. Another recoil lug to keep the ring from sliding off the rear.
They went to a larger shaped lever as there is a nut in it instead of a hex shaft.
Both Jack and Greg have been gone for a while now sadly.
The current Warne rings are pressed powder metal, That is why they have them coated not blued as they were a number of years ago when they were machined.
The L Brownell was 7/16". Kimber changed it very slightly, and the Talleys have always been 1/2"
Then there is the two Brno size metric dovetail sizes also thrown in.
JW