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450 Bushmaster Rifles
01 September 2021, 02:20
dpcd450 Bushmaster Rifles
I did these in my spare time over the past year. All in 450 Bushmaster; bottom one, a 91, is a 35 REM. 91 Mausers work well in 450. Not sure why, but I like the round. Big hole in the barrel, but easy to load and shoot, and legal here.
Most notable is the second from the bottom; 98 Mauser, fitted with an AR-15 magazine.
Second picture is a Zombie rifle, also in 450. Metal is finished in dried blood red. Also works on Werewolves, with silver bullets. Not for vampires.
01 September 2021, 02:39
Bill/OregonLiking that 98 with the AR mag well, Tom. That's some neat gunsmithing.
I had some fun with the .458 SOCOM, the Bushmaster's older brother. Both offer a lot of punch from a small package.
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01 September 2021, 02:48
p dog shooterI like them all except for the thumb hole stocks.
Just me can't stand them
01 September 2021, 03:58
dpcdSocom is 458 and bottlenecked; not legal here; bush is 452.
Stock is the Boyds Spike Camp; more than a thumb hole; it is a hand hole. Just something different.
01 September 2021, 17:05
crsheltonMy son shoots a .458 Socom and it put a Nilgai down pronto! Ballistics like a .45-70.
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GMyersI to am a big fan of the 450 Bushmaster bolt action rifle, but in a slightly more traditional format. I originally built this rifle only because I had a barrel salvaged from a failed 45 ACP rifle project. It is now my favorite rifle to shoot.
02 September 2021, 03:15
p dog shooterquote:
Originally posted by GMyers:
I to am a big fan of the 450 Bushmaster bolt action rifle, but in a slightly more traditional format. I originally built this rifle only because I had a barrel salvaged from a failed 45 ACP rifle project. It is now my favorite rifle to shoot.
Now that is a stock I can like.
02 September 2021, 07:49
dpcdNice, however, that stock cost 15 times more to make and I reserve that time for other calibers. The Boyds' stocks are for dropping in the rocks and not crying.
02 September 2021, 14:38
p dog shooterquote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Nice, however, that stock cost 15 times more to make and I reserve that time for other calibers. The Boyds' stocks are for dropping in the rocks and not crying.
Fully understand.
That is why I prefer syt stocks and stainless metal
02 September 2021, 17:38
Bill/OregonMr. Myers, that is a very handsome rifle you built.
Tom, are you using Douglas barrels on those Bushmasters?
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02 September 2021, 19:16
dpcdYes, and one is a Remington, and one is from a Ruger #1.
02 September 2021, 19:27
LabmanI've always wondered why the big honking muzzle brakes on Bushmaster rifles. I don't think a rifle launching a 250 Gr. bullet at 2,200 fps generates that much recoil. Do these rifles recoil worse than a 30/06? Are the riles very light? What am I missing?
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02 September 2021, 23:01
matt salmWant some more .451/2” barrels? I ended up with some extras as your state now changed legal calibers for your gun deer season to just caliber restrictions. Anything 35 cal and larger to .50 caliber….straight wall “or any other cartridge” that makes 500ft/lbs of muzzle energy. I was building five 45 Raptors and am now building three 358 Winchesters and two 358 WSM’s…which are now legal for IA deer gun season. This was verified with the individual that wrote the regulations.
A 416 Barrett, 408 CheyTac or 33XC would also be legal along with some classics in the 9.3’s and 375’s. Oh, and you could that 35 Rem now too!
Not sure if you were aware. These changes were posted last month.
Shoot straight, shoot often.
Matt
03 September 2021, 02:38
dpcdLab; you are definitely missing something very critical to the 450. The Coolness factor.
Why do they all have muzzle brakes? It all started with the AR platform, making it into a deer capable/legal cartridge format. All the guys and gals who shoot them, are afraid of recoil (being used to a .223), and can't shoot anything that recoils more than a 243. Hence the muzzle brakes are now de rigeur on all 450s, even bolt actions and single shots. Now, here, they are all going to the 350 Legend, finding that even a braked 450 is too much for them. Ran into a guy at the range last week just like this.
So, do you need a MB on one of these 8 pound Mausers? No. Why do I bother to put them on? Good Question, other than they look mean.
I am thinking about putting a bayonet lug on the next one I build. All these are for pig hunting anyway.
Iowa now allows bottlenecks? I read the "new" law, and someone left out the straight wall part. Idiots writing laws.
03 September 2021, 07:25
matt salmNo, the regs states specifically ‘straight walled, or any other cartridge’. They specifically included bottle necked cartridges. They listed some specific cartridges including the 358, 35 Whelen, among others, but then state that it was not an all inclusive list. A friend called and spoke to the individual that penned the new regulations and he stated the 358 WSM would in fact be legal. We’re thinking the 200gr Accubond at 28-2900 will be a fine round for this….these will be braked too.
Shoot straight, shoot often.
Matt
03 September 2021, 18:33
dpcdOk, I have not seen that law. It was always their intent to limit ranges of bullets here. Whomever wrote the law, has obviated that effort. Thinking that larger calibers mean shorter max ranges. He obviously does not understand external ballistics. Good for me though. I'll steer guys away from straight walls now.
Best ones will be 35 Rem, 358 and 35 Whelen. We only have deer; no bears, elk, or moose here. And guys here are all very sensitive to recoil and few can shoot heavy kickers. Never saw anything like it in any other state I lived in.
03 September 2021, 21:07
montea6bquote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Socom is 458 and bottlenecked; not legal here...
Where is "here"? Kalifornia?
Also, how does the 450 feed in Mauser actions? Did you need to mod the feed rails to make it work?
03 September 2021, 21:16
dpcdIowa. Straight wall only. Although apparently, the law has been changed again.
Feeding from 98 Mausers is a no brainer; it just feeds as is. 91s need a some alteration to feed.
And the one I put the AR magazine on; I had to mill out the feed rails to get the magazine in.