I have a M70 winchester, but for some reason it always shoots its 3rd shot about 3 inches away, the other two shots always kisses. I have tried to free float it, presure point wat more kan I do, I am realy getting fed up with this gun

Flip,

I've read all of your posts on this rifle, but I'm not sure exactly what all you've already tried.

I would free-float the barrel and fully bed the action before I shot it any more. It sounds like the heating is causing some shifting of the action in the stock.

Is the third shot always in the same place?

Don

Shoot a 10-shot group. Where do shots 4-10 go?? IF they tend to CONTINUE to walk out of the original group, I would say you have a barrel which is warped, or more likely, one in which the bore is off-center, and as the barrel heats, it expands unevenly, pushing the muzzle farther away from the axis of the first two shots as it gets hotter. If this is the problem, the only cure is a new barrel.

Don G

Yes, it does not matter what I do free float pressure point, it will keep putting the shot about 3 inches away on the right, it always does that does not matter what I am doing.

Flip,

I had the same thing happen to me with my Ruger .257 Roberts using 100 gr. bullets with WW760 powder. Other combos worked great. You may be trying too hard to get a particular bullet or powder to shoot that the rifle just flat out doesn't like. Try another bullet, or bullet weight and see what happens.

My M70 375 H&H, bought NIB, did exactly the same thing.

I tried all the usual remedies, then bought a take-off barrel my gunsmith found and had it installed.

Problem solved.

Are you loading singly, or from the mag? Dutch.

I have a Model 70 that does the same thing, but not as bad. It's a 7x57 Featherweight, 1st 2 shot's will touch, 3rd shot is an inch high and to the right. Who need's more than 2 shot's anyway?

Hi Flip

My Model 70 is similar; first two go into a half-inch at 100 yards, third one is 3/4" lower and an inch to the right of the other two. I try not to miss with the first one, seldom shoot a third.

Tom

Stress in the barrel, and on heating up it walks? Bad bedding? Shoot 3 3 shot groups, letting the barrel cool between.

Don�t overlook the scope!

Hermann

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Flip:

I had rifle that did the same. It was a full length stock and the bedding was poor. The barrel was very light and my remedy is that I am having a stiffer barrel full length glassed from chamber to muzzle. I hope it works.

It is important to me to be able to shot up to five shot accurately in a short space of time as I frequently have the need to kill a roe doe and twin kids at heel. If another female presents intself four deer within one minute is not uncommon. Hence I need a rifle that shoot true with a warm barrel.

Had the same problem with a Mod 70. It turned out to be the front screw going through the action and making contact with the lug when the action was in battery. I filed the screw down and the rifle went back to shooting tight groups.