The gun, from what I can tell, is 2 guns in one. I believe the stock, bottom metal and trigger is from one gun and the barrel, bolt etc. is from another. I need help posting pictures so I can solve the mystery. Can anyone PM me that can post the pictures for me?

Sorry, I do not do PhotoBucket.

Good luck. Are these rifles collectable now? We had one, the first rifle I ever fired, at about seven. I used to fantisise that the curly steel pistol grip was a finger lever, since it was a Winchester

I do not care if it is collectible. I want to make it usable. The stock is not usable unless I use Gorilla glue . The gun has 1930-40 wood screws and a 1950's cap screw holding the barrel on. The stock and bottom metal is WAY different than what is on a 1904.

"Bottom metal", on a Win 1904? I'd like to see a photo of that.

Using the term "Bottom Metal" is probably not correct. ColoradoMatt has offered to post the pictures for me. When he gets a chance to post them then I hope I can get an answer to my question.

That trigger guard sure doesn't look like the one I got on my 1904 for my 12th birthday!

Damned right, DES. That one looks as though it's been tarted up for some German Schuetzfest. Ours did have a schnable fore end but the rest was American simplicity. It had a straight hand and the trigger guard rolled on into an ersatz pistol grip but was nothing like that one. The steel butt plate was the old curved Winchester style and there was no teutonic treatment of the stock at the receiver.

Is it possible they made a special Continental model?

Someone has taken a barrel off a 1904 and put it on some other rifle. It's trash.

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Originally posted by Dennis Earl Smith:
That trigger guard sure doesn't look like the one I got on my 1904 for my 12th birthday!

What do you think it is from? The stock looks like it came with that trigger guard.

PS Thank You ColoradoMatt for posting these pictures.

Your welcome!

If I had to guess, it is off a Germanic muzzleloader or a Schutzen style single shot rifle made in the late 1880-1900's. The style is of early flintlock design in shape and length. The fact it has points at both ends means it more than likely was not a Winchester standard issue. I have just checked my past Dixie Gun Catalogs and current Track of the Wolf catalog to see if this shape is still being made. NOPE. I also checked my Winchester reference books to find out if that design may have been used. The stock design your pictures show suggest a restock in its past. Therefore the Germanic panel treatment near the trigger. It has the proper trigger position pin. I just re-read the history of the 04. Over 300,000 were made. It is possible someone may have ordered something special. I doubt it though. This gun, for its 27 year run, was pretty much an entry tool to 22's. I learned a long time ago "NEVER SAY NEVER" when it comes to factory arms configuration. Just when you say you know everything....someone proves you wrong!

Don't know what the action looks like but the stock and trigger guard look very much like those found on some Flobert rifles.

Bill

Definitely looks like a flobert to me. Amazing that someone tried to fit a 1904 into that stock.

Thank You to everyone for the information. As simple as this gun is, I might take a shot at making a stock for it myself. Could be a good project.

Remember to keep the drop and pitch at factory specifications. Do not try to improve it. I built a new stock with modern dimensions for myself in my youth. It may only be shot by a small child accurately because you can't get down on the wood far enough to see the sights! I kept the factory stock. Live and learn.