I've got a wild hair to build one, but what action is long enough for this cartridge? I like Mauser-style guns but which one?

Also, What stock would you personally choose for the action you recommend. I got the barrel covered.

What about one of the Remington Ultra Mag actions (I know, I know -- they are push feed)? Surely they are long enough, since their cartridge is based upon this caliber.

Hello! Anybody out there?

I know somebody can answer this question.

I forgot to mention that I have an Ultra Mag action already in my posession. Condidering this, would I not be prudent (and frugal) to go ahead and build my 404 with it? (even thought it is push feed)

Personally, I couldn't imagine putting an utterly classic round like the 404 in a Remington push-feed... at the very least it belongs in a Win 70 "extra-LA" with control feed. If you can locate a used Win 70 in 7STW, 300 Ultra, 300 Wby or 375 H&H, they all are nearly ready to go for your project.

Brad

Personaly, I'd have it built in a classic Mauser military action similar to what Holland and Holland, Rigby, etc used. Use an Argentine 1909 or Czech vz24 or 98/22 action. They are cheap right now, but for the gun to be done right it will cost a lot of money. A cheaper alternative would be the win 70 action.

FN commercial, with no thumb cut on the left rail. Double square bridges would be more than I could ask for, or afford as tax season draws to a close and African bills beckon.

Chic

Definately a pre-64 M70 LA. It will feed and eject as smooth as glass. It will even fit the mag box! This would also be very easy to do!-Rob

HI,

I happen to be doing the same thing ,I look at serveral places and E-mailed B. Searcy,but they will not sell actions from there stock.Only to there customers, buy there rifle, I really do not know the whole reason. So I look a few more places and finally just decided to go with a Dakota.They have been around for a long time and have a good name and a good product.I just got tried of looking every where and got nothing .Thanks,kev

Factory 404 cartridge is about 3.53" overall. A M70 will take 3.60" easy, this gives one room for longer bullets. I have built them on standard 98's, a lot of work. The magazine opening in a MarkX in the receiver is around 3.60", with a little creative magazine work (meaning extending to the rear, not the front!!!!!) one may make a nice 404. (I am talking about the standard length MarkX, not the 375 version that has the bottom receiver lug ground away.) Depending on the action, you need a wider magazine box, rail and ramp work, maybe extending the ejection port opening to the rear, maybe some bolt stop and extractor work, etc. And the MarkX may need trigger work to make room for extending the box to the rear. All possible, some actions just take more time and money to convert.

Other actions that will work are the Brno 602, CZ550, Montana M1999. If money is no object use a new built square bridge Magnum Mauser.

Horrors, a M700? Don't let Ray know.

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I would use a 1909 or similar action. They're easy to machine the rails for the fatter case.
The bottom metal would be Blackburn dropped box with the Blackburn bow.

The stock would be perfect quarter sawn fiddleback Circassian in the Rigby style with 8 inch forearm tipped with buffalo horn. Trap grip cap with and extra bead or two and a burgandy leather covered Silvers pad. Talley oval inletted rear swivel with a barrel band front.......Of course it'd have to have a quarter rib with a one standing, one folding rear and catipillar Wart Hog bead front and a skylight hood.

Single square bridge will do... maybe a little flush gold border here and there...color cased 3 position safety and shroud. Nitre blued screws, springs and extractor, everything else is rust blued.....

....slobber, snort and scratch..I woke up.

Jack,
You have no taste, gimme a stainless steel plastic stocked Rem 700 with a clip magazine..make it camo stock with a good Rem trigger and a white line recoil pad and monte carlos comb.

then use it for a tent stake.....

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To me, a 404 Jeffrey demands a Mauser action.

The very thought of using a Rem 700 makes me think about taking up model aeroplanes for a hobby.

If it was just a case of belting 400 grain 40 calibers out at 2400 to 2500, you would just buy a Rem 700 in 416 Remington.

The various problems associated with a 404 Jeffrey are not worth having if it is to be on a Rem 700. It would be like going to some special restaurant which is very expensive and you have to book 3 months ahead and you sit on a fucking plastic box for a chair and the table cloth is glad wrap

Mike

My gunsmith says the P14 action is very good for the 404 and he would built one on them.

The .404 Jeffrey just begs for a classic Mauser 98 action which is why I have one under construction on a Vz24. However, the BRNO ZKK-602 is a good action for the .404 as you can fit five rounds in the magazine (yes, I did say 5) and the 602 only requires a modest amount of work to get the .404 feeding well. The longer magazine also means you can play with various bullets and seating depths.