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Things I have learned so far refinishing a stock.
28 February 2005, 07:59
ElCaballeroThings I have learned so far refinishing a stock.
1. When working with tools such as rasps (especialy when new and sharp) one should stratigicaly tape ones fingers. Unless you like blood on your wood.
2. Checkering is not as easy as tooling leather.
3. When Ralph T. Walker wrote Hobby Gunsmithing and stated that you can install a grind to fit recoil pad with out a power sander he was being sarcastic.
4. Savage stocks are made of birch and stained to look like walnut.
5. Sanding in the living room = less sex.
6. I will not be listed as a stock maker in the next Modern Custom Guns.
28 February 2005, 09:31
billhilly66I’d like to take this opportunity to add a few of my own observations.
1. I believe all of your observations to be correct.
2. Acra-Glass bedding goo is STICKY and will get all over everything
3. Oil dries slower if you check on it more often.
4. You cannot inlet a stock with a Dremel tool.
5. If you practice checkering on an old military stock, you will decide to send your “good†stock off to be checkered.
Libertatis Aequilibritas
28 February 2005, 09:57
CustomstoxElCaballero,
If you are refinishing a stock, you damn well better not be using a rasp. See, something you didnt learn.
When I first started seriously fooling around with reshaping and generally destroying gun stock wood, I did not have a shop. I tinkered in the liveing room while watching TV. I also found that a dust buster portable vacuum settled the war whoops that echoed in the house at times.
28 February 2005, 12:26
gixxerI think Somebody is secretly trying to tell you to get some checkering tools... Ok, maybe not secretly. Well, after reading an update at a custom stockmaker's website, I firmly believe that checkering is pretty difficult, and just a tad hard on the hands, wrists, etc. What did the update say on the website you ask? Something like this..."Now that I am back to work again after having carpal tunnel surgery on both arms, I am starting to work on orders again, just a little bit slower than before..." Hmmm, some folks just love their work a whole lot I guess(myself NOT included).
28 February 2005, 19:20
ElCaballeroCustomstox,
The rasp was for the grind to fit recoil pad.
Which reminds me of no. 7 Grind to fit means you grind until you have a fit.
01 March 2005, 01:34
CustomstoxROFLMAO, very good.
01 March 2005, 06:01
Dan in WaVery funny Chic,
Had the same expierence with the boss back in the 70's with a Herters stock that I bought in their store over in Lacey. Thought I was doing real good...she was not that impressed.
01 March 2005, 07:46
Fjold1,) Staining or varnishing on the dining room table also = less sex.
2.) High gloss finishes will not dry until you touch them, then they will instantly turn rock hard with your fingerprint imbedded in it.
3.) Straight lines don't exist when checkering.
Frank
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09 July 2013, 07:21
NakihunterOld thread - BUT Here is another one
The screw holes in the rubber pad will always rip and leave ugly gaps.
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
09 July 2013, 07:41
cal30 1906I have also observed a few things also...
A beautifully finished top coat of finish is bound to collect pet hair.
Also when hung by a coat hanger to dry in the garage some how will fall to the ground and end up with dirt in its finish.
Cal30
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10 July 2013, 10:07
Mike_Dettorrethe best stock finishing system is a checkbook
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
14 July 2013, 06:39
J_ZolaThe second to last coat of finish always looks the best.
14 July 2013, 22:02
Wstrnhuntr-It is a LOT easier to start a rifle project than to finish one.
-Spending all day, all weekend long trying to finaly finish that dang project = less sex.
-Everyone on AR knows the best products for finishing a stock, very few agree on what that is, and there is no perfect product for said finish.
16 July 2013, 21:37
xs headspaceI only checker stocks every 3 years. It takes me that long to forget the crossed eyes, headaches, twitchy fingers, and backaches.
Hippie redneck geezer
23 July 2013, 03:38
ElCaballeroquote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Old thread - BUT Here is another one
The screw holes in the rubber pad will always rip and leave ugly gaps.
HA! Thanks for resurrecting this! It brought back a few memories. That stock I was refinishing was on a Savage 111 300 Winnie. It was the ugliest thing I have ever owned, especially after I got through with the stock! However it was an accurate motor scooter! I traded it back and forth with a good hunting buddy a few times. He passed away a little over a year ago.
I finally sold that rifle to someone here on AR. Can't remember who.