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06 January 2005, 20:34
JAG
Help with old scope rings.
Looking for info on these old rings. There are no markings on them that I can find. 1" ID quick detach. Came to me in a trade.





JAG
06 January 2005, 21:12
<allen day>
I've never seen rings like those before. I'm likely wrong on this, but I have a hunch that they might be old Talley rings.

You could send this photo to Talley Manufacturing and ask them.

www.talleyrings.com

AD
06 January 2005, 21:33
Bill Leeper
I can't say what they are but I have a set just like them in my junk box (I hasten to add, "junk box" is just a figure of speech. What it is, it's a box of valuable and treasured items which may be available to the astute buyer!).
My rings feature windage adjustment and fit a 3/4" or 19mm dovetail base. One ring is stamped "Akhar" which, I'm sure, means something but I don't know what. Sounds Turkish! Regards, Bill.
06 January 2005, 22:27
TomP
They look a little like the Warne rings that I put on my Savage 24V, except for the levers.


TomP

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06 January 2005, 23:02
Michael Petrov
I had a set of these identical except they had just the bottom half of the ring which was soft soldered to a German scope. I removed them and assumed they were German as well but don’t know that for a fact.
07 January 2005, 03:05
JAG
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
I can't say what they are but I have a set just like them in my junk box (I hasten to add, "junk box" is just a figure of speech. What it is, it's a box of valuable and treasured items which may be available to the astute buyer!).
My rings feature windage adjustment and fit a 3/4" or 19mm dovetail base. One ring is stamped "Akhar" which, I'm sure, means something but I don't know what. Sounds Turkish! Regards, Bill.


These have that same type of windage adjustment but no markings.

I will measure them up when I get home.


JAG
07 January 2005, 04:06
kutenay
I think that they are AKAH rings, originally from Germany and are, I think, still made. If, I remember correctly, Griffin & Howe made top mounts which were essentially a copy of this design, just as the Leupold Q.D. mounts are a copy of an old Rigby design.

Most of the current and even past goodies made in the USA for guns/rifles aew actually Brit.-German ideas, the Yanks simply figure out how to make these things at a price a normal human can afford!
07 January 2005, 05:16
747
these rings are single split meaning that the scope must be dissasembled to install in the ring , now for the million dollar question who can still do that and maintain the nitrogen charge in the scope I have a similar mount that I would like to use but can't find someone to do the scope work.
18 January 2005, 06:40
JAG
BTT


JAG
05 February 2005, 04:48
JAG
Last BTT

Anyone?


JAG
05 February 2005, 06:37
GSP7
They look cool , but if they were mine id say they are pretty much unuseable because you cant get a scope in them, unless you take a old weaver scope apart and slide it in.
05 February 2005, 07:58
weagle
You could use an old straight tube B&L Balfor and I see that the rear mount has windage adjustments. I don't know what you would do about the elevation adjustment.
Good shooting,
Weagle
21 February 2005, 21:44
JAG
I have been drawing a blank everywhere I look.
As far as usiing them, well I dont have a scope that they will fit but certainly would like to find out who made them and what they were used on.

Thanks all,


JAG
22 February 2005, 02:42
Atkinson
Before QDs were the rage, few were available and those that made them got high dollar for them, such as G&H side mounts and Jaeger, so a lot of Custom Gunsmiths made a little money by making rings and bases and many of them were the basis for what is available today...I think Lenard Brownell came out with the first ones and the rest pretty much copied his design to one degree or another...
I suspect that perhaps you have a set of these mounts made by some lesser known but skilled smith..just a guess...


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
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Filer, Idaho, 83328
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16 March 2005, 00:44
JAG
Thanks Ray!
Now to find a home for them. I will be bringing them to the gunshow this weekend and setting them on the table to see if I can find anymore info on them.

Thanks again
JAG


JAG
16 March 2005, 19:38
1894mk2
quote:
Originally posted by 747:
these rings are single split meaning that the scope must be dissasembled to install in the ring , now for the million dollar question who can still do that and maintain the nitrogen charge in the scope I have a similar mount that I would like to use but can't find someone to do the scope work.


The nitrogen charge is not required. I have 2 scopes in soldered mounts that have been stripped and reassembled. One is from 98 (the scope is about 12years old) and has been in all (wet) weathers with no problems at all.

It is necessary for the work to be done in dry weather.
16 March 2005, 19:40
1894mk2
quote:
Originally posted by GSP7:
They look cool , but if they were mine id say they are pretty much unuseable because you cant get a scope in them, unless you take a old weaver scope apart and slide it in.


The high dollar solution is to find a 1" Swarovski Nova which dissasembles (ocular and turrets)for sliding in.