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Takedown Rifles
30 July 2002, 14:35
<Guesty>Takedown Rifles
HI guys, not sure if tjhis is the place to ask but am after a takedown rifle and at the moment can only fin Dakota and Winchester. Does any one no of other manufacturers of such rifles.
Thanks for any help Guesty
There are a few small custom shops that do exquisite work, but you will spending the price of a new car. Let me know if you need names.
If you are not hunting dangerous game, then Sauer, Heym and Blaser all make take-down rifles with interchangeable barrels/calibers. They only cost the price of a used car.
[ 07-30-2002, 06:12: Message edited by: KurtC ]30 July 2002, 15:16
HunterJimIn the US HS Precision and Kenny Jarrett make take down models.
Both have websites.
Of course double rifles are take down by design!
jim dodd
30 July 2002, 15:20
Buell98Likely the best takedown in the world, in my opinion from talking to world renowned gun makers is the Ritterbusch system. There is also another company that makes these rifles with the same system, as Ritterbusch shares the patent. If you want both contacts I would be happy to get them for you. The Ritterbusch is about 15,000 dollars....
Yes, they cost a lot, though, and if you are looking for something more economical the Dakota is the way to go.
Good Luck!
Buell
30 July 2002, 16:23
stubblejumperPrairie gun works makes them in canada.
30 July 2002, 16:33
<Jagermeister>orth is the german company which uses the same take-down design as does ritterbusch.
30 July 2002, 17:27
CustomstoxDuane Weibe makes an excellent one of his own design I believe. The last one I saw had two barrels fitted to the action. Incredible workmanship.
chic
30 July 2002, 18:13
loud-n-boomerI can personally testify to Duane Wiebe's work, as I only live a few miles from his shop, and am thus one of his local pests. I have seen several of his take-downs, including a .500 Jefferey that is drop-dead gorgous. If you are willing to spend the money for a functional piece of art, go with Duane.
30 July 2002, 19:05
Ray, AlaskaThere is a guy in Alaska who creates such rifles from the Marlin design. The cartridges he works with are from .45-70 to .450 Alaskan and a few others. Take a look at the "Copilot" at the following site:
www.wildwestguns.com(I hope that's the correct URL)
30 July 2002, 19:45
<hd352802>Guesty,I don't know the prices of the mentioned custom takedowns but if I wanted one I would go for the Blaser,perfect quality and all kinds of barells to chose from.In almost every standardised caliber,readily interchangeable. The prices here,Belgium,starts at ~1400 �,at the moment about the same in Dollars,I believe.I asume it's a lot less than the custom works mentioned.Don't know the prices in your area.
Hugh.
Winchester does takedowns from the custom shop.
The Holland and Holland system is good which basicaly takes the barreled action from the stock effectively halving the length. I take delivery of my copy in a month. The longest piece is 33" which could be got down to 30" if I went for a detachable scope. Mine will be in and out of the stock like a ....
I am wary of the Mannlicher style which removes the barrel from the action as most Mannlichers that were used in this fashion had to be retightened periodicaly.
I'll let you know how mine shoots. The great thing about it is that it can be done to most rifles.
31 July 2002, 02:43
Need Just 1 More GunFred Zeglin at Z-Hat is doing some take-down rifle work.
www.z-hat.comNorsman Sporting Arms does a nice takedown. Boddington wrote it up in the last Safari Magazine.
01 August 2002, 15:21
CustomstoxLoud-n- Boomer
Last time I heard Duane had moved to Tacoma, did he move back? He does move around a lot.
02 August 2002, 02:50
<OlafD>Hi,
a barrel for a sauer cal. .375 H&H or 416 Rem Mag is 589 Euro = 600 $US, SAUERBoldaction Mod. 202 Classic (S EURO).30-06 1380,00 Euro
http://www.triebel.de/p_langwaffen.htmlkeep in mind VAT will be refunded.
OlafD
02 August 2002, 04:24
fla3006Look in the current issue of Rifle Magazine at the Duane Weibe takedown rifle. Incredible. There's also a German company that makes exquisite takedown rifles. All very expensive.
02 August 2002, 05:00
<OlafD>quote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
Look in the current issue of Rifle Magazine at the Duane Weibe takedown rifle. Incredible. There's also a German company that makes exquisite takedown rifles. All very expensive.
Hi,
do you think they are expensive?
For us is normal price, much more expensive is a good scope on it.
Olaf
06 August 2002, 04:02
ForrestBChic-
Duane does move around a bit. He claims he's back in California to stay, but I'm still using pencil in my adress book.
Duane Wiebe
5300 Merchant Circle, #2
Placerville, CA 95667
(530)344-1357
Duane built a 6.5X55 takedown on a G.33/40 action for me. It's mannlicher stocked and has a 21" bbl. For kicks I've disassembled and reassembled, including removing the scope, between shots on a 5 shot group and the rifle consistently will shoot 1-1/4" groups. I got some funny looks at the range.
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It is a well thought out and beautifully done rifle. It's not quite as expensive as a new car, but it did make a noticable dent in my rifle budget for a year or so.
06 August 2002, 06:31
fla3006OlafD: The German company I was thinking about is Johannsen (sp?), or maybe it's Austrian. Beautiful rifles but expensive IMO- just like a Mercedes Benz that is also nice but no better than a Lexus yet almost twice the price. I suppose there is no way to make a fine quality "inexpensive" take-down rifle but believe it or not there are quite a few unsung, amateur and part-time stockmakers and metalsmiths around here who are capable of top-quality work and don't charge an arm and a leg. When I figure out how to post pictures, I'll show some examples.
06 August 2002, 06:32
N E 450 No2Take a hard look at the Blaser. I recently did a "demo" for some friends. I took the bbl off the reciever and then took the scope off the bbl. When I put everything back together the next 3 shots hit the same 3/4 inch square as the previous 3. I have shot several different Blasers in calibers from 223Rem to 416Rem with never a problem. You can switch between calibers quicker than It takes to talk about it. You can go from Roo's to Buff in a couple of minutes. And if/when you wear out a bbl, no long trip to the gunsmith just "screw" on a new bbl.
07 August 2002, 17:10
KurtCHere is the website for Ritterbusch:
http://www.jagdgewehre.com/07 August 2002, 23:37
<Guesty>Thankyou Gentlemen for all your help, it is hard to make a decision with so many fine fire arms out there. I would truly like one with a mauser type action but I dont think you could go past the Blaser for value for money , Any body have any opinions on this ?
Regards Guesty
08 August 2002, 04:38
dan belisleI believe SIG makes one as well, and at least in this neighborhood the SIG is cheaper than the Blazer. FWIW - Dan
08 August 2002, 06:43
KurtCGuesty,
Any take-down on a true Mauser will have to be a custom job. These are the ones that will cost as much as a new car. They will of course, also be the nicest.
The Sauer 202 and the Blaser 93, in their synthetic stock variations, will be the least expensive. Prices will probably start around $1200 or so.
08 August 2002, 11:52
Bill LeeperMartin Hagn builds takedowns on Mauser actions or on his own single shots. I think you want to be fairly wealthy so you can afford to pay and fairly young so you can afford to wait! Good work, in fact better than good. Regards, Bill
08 August 2002, 17:59
LE270Depending on what caliber you want and whether you're willing to go with a used lever action rifle, you may want to look at Savage, as they made the model 99 in a takedown version. You can generally find one or more listed on gunsamerica. Although more expensive than a non-takedown model 99, they are considerably less expensive than a new, custom-made bolt action rifle.
08 August 2002, 23:42
1894Any good smith should be able to make a H&H style takedown out of a Mark X or CZ. The labour involved would be:-
Cut and machine male tongue into action tang just in front of the rear action screw.
Machine female slot into remaining piece of tang
Bed action in a fashion that allows frequent removal and replacement of barreled action
This makes the rifle breakdown into stock and barreled action which in the case of a standard stocked 22" barrel with scope will be about 30" in length. The assembly and dissasembly of the rifle is by the front action scew alone which is a cap head which should be easily done to the same tension.
09 August 2002, 03:12
LE270If you go to
www.gunsamerica.comand then put takedown into their search engine, you will be given several pages of takedown guns, including several Mannlicher-Schoenauer rifles, and a Winchester Model 70 in .375 H&H that was made into a takedown by Winchester's Custom Shop.
10 August 2002, 16:10
BbearI've owned a couple of Blasers. Love them all. Currently, I've got a 30-06 in the basic synthetic version.
It will consistantly put 3-5 shots inside a 1" square at 100 yds.
I pull the scoped barrel off and change it for my 300 Win Mag and start doing the same thing w/ it. total cost to me, less than most of the guns the others have listed.
For the money spent, it's a great gun.
Sig also owns/makes the Sauer rifle. It too is a take down rifle. And for much less. Only problem is that the scope is mounted to the receiver, not the barrel. So each time you change barrels, you may have to resight the rifle.
Another thing is that you have some limitations on what calibers will fit on a rifle as the bolts are different. I think you can get different bolts though. Just don't know how much.
18 November 2002, 17:33
HenryC470So if a fellow was considering a takedown Mauser simply because he can't decide between, say, a 416 Rigby and a 450 Rigby; and he wanted a magnum Mauser in one caliber with the option to have the other at some point, he might be better off: A) buying 2 one-piece non-demountable magnum Mausers or B) buying in one caliber and rebarelling when he decides he really wanted the other or C) getting the takedown and not sending the kids off to college?
H. C.