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01 September 2019, 02:26
Live Oak
Remmington 1100 question
I have an early model 1100, one with fixed choke. It appears to be short cycling. It will pick up but not quite chamber the second or third shell. Every once in a while it will chamber one or the other. It was not dirty but fairly clean. I am thinking it has something in the recoil spring tube. Maybe gummy oil. I can not get the nut/counter weight off to remove the stock. I have sprayed penetrating oil as best I could on it. Anyone have a way to break it loose?
01 September 2019, 06:18
slivers
What tool are you using?


01 September 2019, 06:52
Bobster
In the shop we generally use a large hollow ground blade screwdriver. We ground some flats on the shaft so we could get a wrench on it if necessary. I've also used a 3/8 wratchet with extension and a socket with a large flat bit.

Could be a gummed up spring. Also could be bad gas rings and barrel seal o-ring. Gas ports could be carboned up. Timing could be off due to interceptor latch wear. Ammo may not be powerful enough to cycle it.
01 September 2019, 19:58
slivers
The socket with straight blade to fit the slot (if it has not been canceled by Brownells in favor of another AR part!), driven by a long 3/8" drive extension and T handle will get that nut off. Place the butt stock in a padded vise and have at it. It could be any of the things Bobster mentioned. The 1100 was designed to function with the std 1 1/8oz load in 12g and 1oz load in 20. Many times Walmart shells are light and many of the older auto loaders won't cycle with them. The recoil spring would be worth looking at, though,, as well as the piston and seal, and the gas ports. Much more than that and you'll probably need a gunsmith. A magnum marked gun won't cycle 2 3/4" 1 1/8oz standard shell. When the butt stock is assembled to the receiver it is all but impossible to get any lube to those threads, you'll just be soaking oil into the wood, and that's not good.


02 September 2019, 03:28
Live Oak
Tried several different brands of shells. Cleaned everything yall have listed. Does not appear to be shot enough for wear. I have a large Craftsman screw driver with the square shaft. Small crescent wrench for help. I was starting to turn the receive in the stock! May have to hammer on the screw driver to "warm it up". I was thinking about rigging up some sort of impact setup and clamping the receiver.
02 September 2019, 08:34
Garth Baker
I would check make sure the gas port is open or the o ring. If it's a magnum 3 inch only they are designed to shoot magnum loads or good 2 3/4 inch.

What is on the side of the reciever.


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02 September 2019, 22:32
Bobster
Is the round from the mag being picked up by the lifter but the bolt is not moving forward to strip it off ? If you push the charging handle forward with your palm heel will it chamber?
03 September 2019, 04:42
Bryndon
I’d bet it’s the o-ring. They’re cheap and have fixed 19 out of 20 1100 cycling problems I’ve ever seen. The other was the gas ports in the barrel.
04 September 2019, 07:55
Live Oak
Could be the oring, though it looks ok and fits fairly tight. Is it a special material oring ? It picks up the shell but jams it against the side of the chamber. Pulling back on the charge handle and it loads correctly. Both gas ports are clear. It acts like the bolt does not come back fully manually pulling it back. Got a bunch going on this week. Round two next week.
04 September 2019, 12:15
eagle27
Live Oak's statement that it picks up the shell but jams it against the side of the chamber indicates the bolt is being cycled back enough to pick up a cartridge of the lifter so nothing to do with the gas system, ports, o'ring etc.
It seems something stopping the shell aligning correctly onto the bolt face to feed into the chamber. Check the bolt face for any burring and check the extractor. Make sure the extractor has not chipped on the hook and is free moving i.e. the spring or plunger is not jamming.

Check everything else in the action that retains and aligns the shell e.g. the shell lifter platform to make sure nothing is jamming, cracked or broken.
04 September 2019, 16:27
Terry Blauwkamp
"Somewhere" at home I have a tool made just for removing the nut in the stock.

Ill look for it tonight, and if you are still having problem, be glad to send it down to you.


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04 September 2019, 17:42
Bobster
Ok, sounds like you have an issue with the carrier latch or carrier dog. Pull the trigger group and inspect for worn or loose parts. Easiest solution is to buy a whole new group from Remington. The parts can be replaced if you have proper tools and knowledge. Still a chance it could be a gummed up action spring.

quote:
Originally posted by Live Oak:
Could be the oring, though it looks ok and fits fairly tight. Is it a special material oring ? It picks up the shell but jams it against the side of the chamber. Pulling back on the charge handle and it loads correctly. Both gas ports are clear. It acts like the bolt does not come back fully manually pulling it back. Got a bunch going on this week. Round two next week.

04 September 2019, 20:40
wwgreener
Pull the stock and clean the spring and housing for the bolt return. Often neglected and you'll be surprised how dirty and dry it is.
05 September 2019, 16:04
Terry Blauwkamp
quote:
Originally posted by Terry Blauwkamp:
"Somewhere" at home I have a tool made just for removing the nut in the stock.

Ill look for it tonight, and if you are still having problem, be glad to send it down to you.


I found the wrench, if you still need it, let me know.

Terry


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06 September 2019, 09:23
Bryndon
If you’ll send me your address I’ll send you an o ring. If an 1100 has been shot enough to have a feeding issue it needs an o ring too.
06 September 2019, 12:30
p dog shooter
All reasons not to own or buy Remington semi auto shotguns.

There are much better designs out there.
06 September 2019, 15:39
Garth Baker
One other thing to try is pull the trigger assembly out. Pull the barrel off and pull the bolt back. See if the link is gliding good into the stock. I have seen where the plunger that the link hooks to gets gulled up or the link is bent.


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07 September 2019, 03:26
Bobster
This is true but under no circumstances insert a bare finger into the receiver to test it. You will receive a nasty and painful cut to remind you. Those raceways get lapped like a razor.

quote:
Originally posted by Garth Baker:
One other thing to try is pull the trigger assembly out. Pull the barrel off and pull the bolt back. See if the link is gliding good into the stock. I have seen where the plunger that the link hooks to gets gulled up or the link is bent.

07 September 2019, 03:47
Garth Baker
Just run the bolt back and forth with the bolt handle.

I cut my fingers more than a couple of times on 1100 and 870's.


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