Conetrol Steel

08 October 2023, 00:44

brnomauser

quote:
Originally posted by kda55:
You might try these guys.
http://conetrol.com/

I wanted to see if anyone else knew first. I already contacted them to get a price on a cap - effectively they wanted AU$190, which is the price of one ring (they wanted both rings back, then would make the cap, fit it and refinish both) including two lots of international postage. This isn’t an unfair price, but I’d rather do the fitting and finishing. I don’t want to push the offer back in their face and then ask what steel they’re using…

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Clark:
Where I work we have a bunch of Conetrol rings

http://www.dvhcustomguns.com/

do you have a spare cap?

08 October 2023, 00:54

kda55

Since they are made as a unit a cap may not necessarily fit. What height is you ring, and gunnar or custom style? Can rings ship to Aus from the US without problems?

08 October 2023, 08:35

Kevin Gullette

eBay has a bunch of Conetrol stuff.

Hope this helps.

Kevin

08 October 2023, 11:29

LeonardC

OP has good taste in rings! I'm looking to order a set for my 2nd Kimber 22. Looks like $264 for rings and bases. We have them on 2 other Kimber 22s, I don't remember them being this expensive! They sure are beautiful!

I'd be surprised if all the parts can be interchanged. Our's fit very tightly together.

08 October 2023, 14:48

brnomauser

quote:
Originally posted by kda55:
Since they are made as a unit a cap may not necessarily fit. What height is you ring, and gunnar or custom style? Can rings ship to Aus from the US without problems?

true, may not be 100% fit, but it could become so with a bit of fettling.
Yes rings are no problem to ship to Australia - I had a set went recently. Mine are high Gunners

quote:
Originally posted by Kevin Gullette:
eBay has a bunch of Conetrol stuff.

Hope this helps.

Kevin

Haven’t seen a cap on there

quote:
Originally posted by LeonardC:
OP has good taste in rings! I'm looking to order a set for my 2nd Kimber 22. Looks like $264 for rings and bases. We have them on 2 other Kimber 22s, I don't remember them being this expensive! They sure are beautiful!

I'd be surprised if all the parts can be interchanged. Our's fit very tightly together.

yep beautiful rings - I’m not saying they’re not worth it, just that I’d prefer to do the work. Not expecting drop in, but a shortcut would be handy

08 October 2023, 20:02

dpcd

Scope rings are made from 1020 and the like; nothing special.
But conetrol systems are long obsolete and I wouldn't use one on my stray dog rifle. I'm surprised they are still made. I throw them away when a rifle comes in with them. My opinion.

09 October 2023, 00:08

bt8897

S&k are a much better option in my opinion if you are looking for that type of set up

09 October 2023, 01:40

richj

I didn't know that SK rings fit Conetrol bases.

I took these off of a mauser 66 swap barrel rifle. I'm also missing a "top" on one.

(mauser now has a 1 piece)

Dull finish is SK

09 October 2023, 01:41

Fal Grunt

I put exactly one set of Conetrol rings/bases on a rifle. The owner of the company refused to accept that I was a business unless I faxed him a copy of my company letterhead and a recent newspaper advertisement from my business. This was in 2013!

Course Leupold told me I wasn't a legitimate business either so what do I know!

09 October 2023, 03:56

dpcd

I have used exactly Zero of them and don't intend to start now. They are junk, again, my opinion. I'm sure someone out there likes them.

09 October 2023, 06:36

kda55

Per KG's post above, watch ebay.

09 October 2023, 08:37

Kevin Gullette

quote:
Originally posted by kda55:
Per KG's post above, watch ebay.

Yep......as there's currently an entire single custom medium ring for only 30 bucks.

BTW.....Tom....since you're throwing them away....how about sending them my way??

Kevin

09 October 2023, 15:06

SDH

The owner of Control emailed me asking why I didn't use their rings. I told him no particular reason. He sold me a pair at a deep discount and I mounted them finding them wonderfully made and very nicely finished. Would not hesitate to use them again. The way they fit together is quite trick and they are projectionless as advertised.

10 October 2023, 01:21

brnomauser

quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Scope rings are made from 1020 and the like; nothing special.
But conetrol systems are long obsolete and I wouldn't use one on my stray dog rifle. I'm surprised they are still made. I throw them away when a rifle comes in with them. My opinion.

that’s a very extreme opinion, and to state they are “long obsolete” is bogus. They’re no more obsolete than any other ring on the market.

They look great - on my and thousands of others’ opinions, they’re strong and they windage adjust. If you don’t like them, fine, but going over the top about them is foolish.

S&K look really nice, I wasn’t aware of them. It seems like you have to flex them over the scope too to fit though? How many times can you do this without fatiguing them?

That $30 set on eBay is good value. Problem is US$30, plus postage with her current exchange rate still comes to well over AU$100. I still reckon I’ll end up making a cap unless the dollar turns around soon

10 October 2023, 01:23

brnomauser

quote:
Originally posted by brnomauser:
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Scope rings are made from 1020 and the like; nothing special.
But conetrol systems are long obsolete and I wouldn't use one on my stray dog rifle. I'm surprised they are still made. I throw them away when a rifle comes in with them. My opinion.
that’s a very extreme opinion, and to state they are “long obsolete” is bogus. They’re no more obsolete than any other ring on the market. They look great - in my and thousands of others’ opinions, they’re strong and they windage adjust. If you don’t like them, fine, but going over the top about them makes you seem deluded.

S&K look really nice, I wasn’t aware of them. It seems like you have to flex them over the scope too to fit though? How many times can you do this without fatiguing them?

That $30 set on eBay is good value. Problem is US$30, plus postage with her current exchange rate still comes to well over AU$100. I still reckon I’ll end up making a cap unless the dollar turns around soon

10 October 2023, 01:27

kda55

I’ll buy it for you if you pay the postage. Then pass forward to another soul in need in the future. Let me know. I like conetrol rings, have several sets myself.

10 October 2023, 04:04

Kevin Gullette

Over the decades I've used a few dozen sets of Conetrol rings and bases. I have preferred them on higher grade rifles that use the small Sako L461 or AI action.
Years ago I developed my own "kink" when fitting the rings/bases........as they can be a bit grabby/stubborn to put together. The process allows for very smooth and precise assembly and adjustment.

Below is a pic of a 17-222 with a Leupold 3-9XAO Compact in Conetrols. (Sorry for the lousy pic......but it's an old scanning of a 35mm print.

Kevin

11 October 2023, 01:29

brnomauser

quote:
Originally posted by kda55:
I’ll buy it for you if you pay the postage. Then pass forward to another soul in need in the future. Let me know. I like conetrol rings, have several sets myself.

That really is very kind of you - probably too kind. I messaged the seller yesterday, he still hasn’t replied, will see what the go is. I also messaged the seller with the single ring and weatherby mount, he won’t ship overseas. It’s cheaper though, I guess someone might be able to relay it…

11 October 2023, 01:54

RogersGunWorks

quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
I have used exactly Zero of them and don't intend to start now. They are junk, again, my opinion. I'm sure someone out there likes them.

Most of you don't know that DPCD & I are graduates of the same ROTC unit, were professional Army officers, and have known one another for >50 years. I guess that makes us old, but experienced, farts. As there is always some ball busting between friends, I will say that it pains me to agree with him once again.

I have thrown away or given away many Conetrol rings. I will admit they look sleek, but they are an absolute pain to install. In addition to the little top cap, the rings are held together by two teeny, tiny screws which frequently bend and become distorted. The screws are opposed and tightening them invariably causes the scope tube to rotate in the rings. Getting the crosshairs correctly aligned with this system is problematic.

While Conetrol products were well made and nicely polished and blued, they are not user friendly and, aside from appearances, have no redeeming qualities, which is why they are no longer produced.

Roger

11 October 2023, 02:43

Gundog 64

quote:
Originally posted by RogersGunWorks:
which is why they are no longer produced.

Roger

Roger,
Am I missing something with this comment? I was just on their website 3 days ago.
John

11 October 2023, 03:11

Kevin Gullette

quote:
Originally posted by RogersGunWorks:
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
I have used exactly Zero of them and don't intend to start now. They are junk, again, my opinion. I'm sure someone out there likes them.

Most of you don't know that DPCD & I are graduates of the same ROTC unit, were professional Army officers, and have known one another for >50 years. I guess that makes us old, but experienced, farts. As there is always some ball busting between friends, I will say that it pains me to agree with him once again.

I have thrown away or given away many Conetrol rings. I will admit they look sleek, but they are an absolute pain to install. In addition to the little top cap, the rings are held together by two teeny, tiny screws which frequently bend and become distorted. The screws are opposed and tightening them invariably causes the scope tube to rotate in the rings. Getting the crosshairs correctly aligned with this system is problematic.

While Conetrol products were well made and nicely polished and blued, they are not user friendly and, aside from appearances, have no redeeming qualities, which is why they are no longer produced.

Roger

Pretty sure they are still in business......see conetrol dot com and OP above.

Also.....with a little preparation, the rings are quite easy to mount/adjust. See my post above.

Kevin

11 October 2023, 04:52

richj

as to them being in business.. do they still sell the "top Cap" rings? See my pic above for the other "normal" type rings.

11 October 2023, 07:03

kda55

Offer still stands as long as it can be shipped without restrictions.

15 October 2023, 03:37

custombolt

brnomauser - I really lke my S&K rings. The trick to mounting them is to use a wood jawed carpenters block clamp with the two wooden handled screws to clamp them in place. It takes some practice to 'get it right'. Just pre-size the clamp and hold the strap in place while you tighten the clamp.

quote:
Originally posted by brnomauser:
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Scope rings are made from 1020 and the like; nothing special.
But conetrol systems are long obsolete and I wouldn't use one on my stray dog rifle. I'm surprised they are still made. I throw them away when a rifle comes in with them. My opinion.
that’s a very extreme opinion, and to state they are “long obsolete” is bogus. They’re no more obsolete than any other ring on the market.

They look great - on my and thousands of others’ opinions, they’re strong and they windage adjust. If you don’t like them, fine, but going over the top about them is foolish.

S&K look really nice, I wasn’t aware of them. It seems like you have to flex them over the scope too to fit though? How many times can you do this without fatiguing them?

That $30 set on eBay is good value. Problem is US$30, plus postage with her current exchange rate still comes to well over AU$100. I still reckon I’ll end up making a cap unless the dollar turns around soon

27 October 2023, 11:29

LeonardC

Conetrol is still in business. I ordered my set for a Kimber 82 (.22LR) on Monday and the set was waiting for me at the mail center today, Thursday. I called them on the phone to order because I wanted to be certain what I thought I was ordering was the correct size. The nice gentleman on the phone walked me through what measurement I needed to make and then took my order. Perfect fit.

02 November 2023, 03:55

Atkinson

Ive never had a problem with them, and mounted many sets without all these problems, nor did they have problems in the hunting fields.

I quit using Control when that old fart jumped on my ass because over the phone I gave his contact numbers as advertised to a guy I really didn't know, and he apparently ordered several sets saying I represented him, and the buyer refused to pay for them for some reason for which I have no idea, so the owner calls me and wants payment from me for some weird reason. to wit we had a come to Jesus confrontation, and he lost a customer...I liked Talley better anyway. I got the impression that he was on the juice or dementia, bless his heart!

08 November 2023, 18:13

kda55

Anybody hear from Brnomauser, he seems to have fallen off the radar. I have a part for him.

10 November 2023, 16:09

brnomauser

quote:
Originally posted by kda55:
Anybody hear from Brnomauser, he seems to have fallen off the radar. I have a part for him.

I sent you a PM a while ago - didn’t hear back so assumed it fell through, clearly not! Thank you very much I appreciate the help - send me a PM and we can work the details out

10 November 2023, 16:14

kda55

Check your PM's.

11 November 2023, 01:23

brnomauser

quote:
Originally posted by kda55:
Check your PM's.

sorry mate - PM icon eluded me on my little phone screen…

27 May 2024, 07:19

brnomauser

Once again thank you very much kda55 for getting the to cap to me - it saved me an enormous amount of work.

As suspected, the cap locked the ring half’s just fine but was thankfully fairly oversized.

Got a bit of 1” round bar and assembled the set, clamped it in a drill and profiled it against the belt grinder. Went up to 400g then hand sanded.

Ready for an acid bath to remove the old bluing then a round of that bluing

27 May 2024, 08:41

kda55

Nice work, glad it all worked out for you.

29 May 2024, 04:20

MARK H. YOUNG

I ordered a custom rifle from Brown Precision many years ago and specified the Conetrol Rings. STUPID! For the home hobbyist they are a fuckin' nightmare when changing scopes. I had exactly that one set and right back to Weavers on everything.

I have a pair of Conetrol that are electroless nickel plated (not shiny) that I will gladly part with. Bases fit Remington 700 receiver or similar. Any interest?

Mark

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