Can anyone give me the history of the Mauser Standard-Modell? I picked one up at a local gun show, very minty with all matching numbers including stock and forend piece. Any thoughts as to value?

Post some pictures if you would. I'd like to see it.

Don't have any yet but will take some and try to have someone post for me.

Great mauser. I used to have a standard/ghost model which like a idiot I traded away for a K98k sniper. Live & learn.

Here are the pictures of the rifle:

Let's try that again, I guess I saved the thumb nails instead of the pictures.

Very nice rifle. I'd say it would go for $7-800, more to the right collector. Plain FN Mausers in good condition are going for $5-600.

Of course this also depends on what area of the country you are in. However, with the internet, this difference is slowly being eliminated, even at local gun shows.

As for history, I'd refer you to Ludwig Olson's book, "Mauser Bolt Rifles". It is one of the better books on the subject.

Here is one, albeit with double set triggers, for just under a thousand bucks.

http://www.adamsguns.com/2430.htm

Two keys. Condition and original condition will determine its value. The photo may be deceiving, but it appears that the receiver was refinished on your mauser. It looks much darker than the barrel.

$475 to $550 seems to be top money right now since the barrel bluing seems thinned out a bit. But, I'm just a novice on Mausers, not an expert.

Standard Modells were made at the Mauser factory in 1933; mostly for export; many went to Spain. Remember that Germany was not allowed to make military rifles after WW1, so to fill the export market void, Belgium/FN (24) Czechoslovakia (VZ24) Poland (WZ24) started making a short rifle to sell to the world. Germany was absent from that market from 1918 to 1933, when they started making a "standard modell" patterned after the Belgian, Czech and Polish rifles. That model was transformed into the 98k, which began production in 1935 and was later manufactured by 10 different makers to arm the Wehrmact for WW2. They aren't rare and condition is important.

Not rare but at the bottom of the Mauser list. At least in the North East. I've see a Argentine, Czech, Peruvian, Mexican, Venezuelan, Brazilian, Chilean and Yugo. Never ever seen one a those before.. in the wild.

My Standard-Modell had a Chinese marking on it. It is now a 9.3X62 double square bridge custom.

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Originally posted by butchlambert:
My Standard-Modell had a Chinese marking on it. It is now a 9.3X62 double square bridge custom.

Good steel. Doncha think Butch?

I am sure (I hope) you made sure that your Chinese marked Mauser was really made in Germany instead of China. I have, and have had, several made in China which copied the markings, some better than others. But China was certainly a buyer of the ones made in Germany, and then they copied them. True, they are less common than many other variations and makers. BTW, the one in the pic above should have the BUGN proofs on the barrel too. I have one for sale; I think I will put it in the classifieds.

That is a very clean Standard Modell, worth a nice premium to the typical gun show Standard Modell. An Oberndorf, not a Chinese contract. So how much did you pay?

dpcd. Didn't those China copies look like crap compared to the German made China Modell imports?

Mine was an Obendorf with a little flower stamped on it. I was told it was a Chinese contract. It also had a small Mauser banner on the front ring.
I bought the receiver at a local gun shop.

Beautiful gun, but I'm concerned about the uniform thin finish on the barrel, but the "fresh-out-of-the-salts" deep blue on the receiver. How could two pieces supposedly mated at manufacture wear so differently? The stock appears to have some raised dents and scratches that have been finished over.

Yes the Chaing Kai Shek Mauser markings were not as well done as those made at Mauser but some of them could fool someone who had never seen a real one. Most look like cheap copies, which they are. The Standard Modells I have and have seen all have a large Mauser logo on the receiver ring. Chinese ones have several types of markings, one of which is a copy of the real one. As for the one in the picture, the barrel could be a replacement since I have never seen one without the BUGN proofs. Please tell us if they are on the other side of the barrel.

The pictures were posted over 4 years ago. I wonder if he still has the rifle and, if so, what configuration it is now in.

I sold it to a collector several years ago.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Yes the Chaing Kai Shek Mauser markings were not as well done as those made at Mauser but some of them could fool someone who had never seen a real one. .

Seemed to be the case according to pictures in some of my books. Never actually held one.

The Standard-Modell was the commercial equivilent to the 98K, made only by the Oberndorf plant. They were made for non-military organizations like the Railway, Post Office and shooting clubs. They had nice bluing, straight bolt handles, flat butt plates and no stock disc. They are as prized today as they were in the 1930's.

Some were exported to China, and many were collected up and pressed into service during the latter years of the war. It is not uncommon to find such receivers with mixmatched parts like turned down handles and cupped buttplates. These are usually pretty beaten up or Russian retreads.

There are two variations of the standard modell; which we can call the predecessor to the 98k; it was not made concurrent with them. The first ones have a straight bolt, are marked "standard modell" and were made in 1933, mostly for export. The second model, sometimes called the alternate standard modell, made in 1934, is more like a 98k; turned down bolt, marked 1934, and NOT marked standard modell. These are the ones used by the Rail and Post offices. I have never seen one with Army acceptance marks on it. Germany was not supposed to be making military rifles in 1933. The Versailles treaty allowed only a 100K man army and did not allow manufacture of military weapons, but Hitler came into power in 1933 and said screw that. So Mauser developed the Standard Modell under the cover of it being for export and later, to the Reichs Post and Reichs Bahn.
1935 saw the first 98ks produced for the Army. S42G was the code for them and ultimately, ten different companies made 98ks. None was made by a government arsenal.

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1935 saw the first 98ks produced for the Army. S42G was the code for them and ultimately, ten different companies made 98ks. None was made by a government arsenal.

This is exactly what I had. Collectors call these rare rifles the Standard Model/Ghost Model. The S42/G receiver ring was reground ALMOST removing all traces of the original stamping then restamped with the Mauser banner logo. When you hold them JUST right under good lighting you can clearly see the original S42/G
stamping. I traded mine for a 98K sniper over 30 years ago.

Yes, the S42G overstamps are rare and it is unknown why that was done. Actually, I should have stated that the first code was used in 1934 and the code was S42K, with the S42 meaning Mauser and the K meaning 1934. later they shortened it to S42, then 42, then byf, then svw, then svwMB. But this is not a lesson in German production codes.

As I understand it the over stamp was done because as you said Germany wasn't supposed to be making military rifles in in 1933.

You know, I just looked at the old pictures and mine had the small Mauser stamp, but it also had byf on it. It was not stamped anyplace with Standard Modell.