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The Beauty of German Engineering
01 May 2008, 07:13
ForrestBGreat photos and very interesting. I've never seen anything like this before.
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01 May 2008, 07:51
ireload2quote:
Well today I think I've found the ultimate in over-engineered and unique mounts.
I think we are interested in mounts because there are so many goofy, bad ones and we are always looking for a better one. I once saw a Redfield base that had been stick welded to a Mauser.
I have not seen a steel tube scope TIGed to a receiver .... yet.
01 May 2008, 07:52
craigsterIn addition to the engineering, they are a fine example of a master machinist's skill. Very impressive to say the least.
01 May 2008, 08:00
Prewar70I had to pick my jaw up off the desk. I can't believe you found that and of all places in the Sportsman's Guide! Unbelieveable.
The catalog was sittin on my coffee table, and I had remembered seeing those mounts about 8 months ago
01 May 2008, 08:14
Prewar70I did some quick googling, looks like there are quite a few reproductions of this "turret" style mount and I'm guessing the ones in the catalog are too. Ebay turned up a few sets described as such. I also found that an original set of mounts with German scope sold on Ebay a few years ago for $5,000! That was an anomaly but the going rate for good condition original turret WWII mounts and scope are $2,000 and up. They apparently have quite a bit of collector value.
01 May 2008, 08:26
ElCaballeroLooks like they are sold out.
01 May 2008, 08:39
tin canAs simple as mounts are today, I've often wondered why the old ones are so complicated- like anything out of that era and before, those mounts are really a testimony to the skill in making them.
FWIW, off the topic a little, I've always found the slots for claw mounts, the ones with the cross-hatching around them, to look like they were done with a file, a little crudely- the holes don't look square to my eye , many times.
A friend of mine's father brought a scope like that back from Germany after WW2.
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I had to pick my jaw up off the desk. I can't believe you found that and of all places in the Sportsman's Guide! Unbelieveable.
Leave it to Gary to dig something like that up. I buy my wife a "100% wool" (French/Swiss/??) doublebreasted military overcoat every three years from him- my wife wears them til they fall off of her, and I get to be a hero for $19.95.
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Originally posted by tin can:
As simple as mounts are today, I've often wondered why the old ones are so complicated- like anything out of that era and before, those mounts are really a testimony to the skill in making them.
My guess is that the windage adjustment for the scope is in the rear mount. The early scopes were limited in their internal adjustments and the robustness of same. The external adjustments in the mounts just made sense then.
I saw that rifle too....amazing.
Item #9689 Price: $11,250 (listed in New Arrivals)
http://www.joesalter.com/index.htmlquote:
I'm a fan of the old Stith mounts . .
I own two sets of Stith mounts. One on a 30-06 and the other on a 22-250. Just amazing how accurate those mounts are!
Tip Burns told me the other day that he used to have a bunch of those at his shop.
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02 May 2008, 19:07
Prewar70I have several complete sets in boxes not to mention the ones I have on my old Winchester 70s. They are well machined, good steel, nice blueing, sturdy, accurate, and some are detachable with a decent return to zero. I just keep buying them when I see em, at some point I'm going to have to stop doing this.