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14 January 2016, 05:21
ramrod340
Fill Front Swivel hole
Saw Bear Cat's post and didn't want to climb on.

I have a stock that has a front swivel hole. Bought a used barreled action to put in it. However the barrel has a swivel band on it. It clears the end of the stock just fine. But don't think double swivels would look good.

so how to fill? It has a contrasting walnut tip so I was thinking of a walnut plug.

Thoughts?


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
14 January 2016, 06:21
Toomany Tools
I've plugged them using a diamond-shaped inlay of contrasting wood.


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14 January 2016, 16:10
p dog shooter
Just depends how fancy you want to get every thing from dyed accglass to a wood plug or as Toomany says a inlay
14 January 2016, 20:15
speerchucker30x378
I don't think there is a good way to hide a hole without admitting that you have a hole there that you didn't want, BUT ! A few years back I used to get brass 10x32 Chicago screws from Tandy Leather. If a guy wanted the front stud removed I would just glue the male portion of one of those screws in place with the slot timed at high noon up the fore end. They looked surprisingly professional and if the guy changed his mind a hard turn with a common screw driver would break them free and the stud could be replaced.

Gunsmith Rod Henrickson sling swivel stud by Rod Henrickson, on Flickr


When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
15 January 2016, 02:02
ramrod340
Actually I was thinking of a screw. But having it blued with the barreled action.


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
15 January 2016, 02:44
dpcd
You guys are killin me.
15 January 2016, 02:55
ramrod340
quote:
You guys are killin me.

Confused Why?


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
15 January 2016, 03:57
montea6b
You could always do what I did on one of mine; cut it off just aft of the hole and install a contrasting wood tip. And if you shorten the forearm a little in the process it will help with your other concern of the barrel band being too close to the tip. It all depends on how far back the hole is...
15 January 2016, 04:38
dpcd
So many ideas that look like things I did when I was 14; brass screws, diamond inlays, dyed eposy;
And now the best; chop the whole thing off and glue on more wood.
15 January 2016, 04:41
ramrod340
quote:
And now the best; chop the whole thing off and glue on more wood

I agree best. However, I "think" I would run into the checkering. Yes to lazy to go out into the COLD garage and open the safe.


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
15 January 2016, 04:42
ramrod340
Maybe someone wants to swap a factory MKX 270 barreled action for a PO Ackley 270 barreled action Wink


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
15 January 2016, 04:45
montea6b
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
So many ideas that look like things I did when I was 14; brass screws, diamond inlays, dyed eposy;
And now the best; chop the whole thing off and glue on more wood.

I haven't heard your suggestion yet...
15 January 2016, 04:52
ramrod340
quote:
And now the best; chop the whole thing off and glue on more wood.

Thought that was his suggestion. OK still too lazy to out outside but looking at pictures the tip would be touching the front checkering Frowner


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
15 January 2016, 05:22
Don Markey
quote:
Originally posted by ramrod340:
quote:
And now the best; chop the whole thing off and glue on more wood.

Thought that was his suggestion. OK still too lazy to gout outside but looking at pictures the tip would be touching the front checkering Frowner


Probably not with a widows peak.
Don
15 January 2016, 06:29
speerchucker30x378
Yeah, well I haven't told you the best one dpcd. Get out your letters stamps. Stamp a little arrow into the wood pointing to the open hole. At the other end of the arrow stamp: "OIL HERE"

coffee he he he he he


When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
15 January 2016, 06:31
ramrod340
quote:
At the other end of the arrow stamp: "OIL HERE"

rotflmo rotflmo


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
15 January 2016, 07:21
dpcd
My suggestion; make a new stock. That would fix it for sure.
15 January 2016, 07:29
speerchucker30x378
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
My suggestion; make a new stock. That would fix it for sure.



Yeah yeah yeah

You're just pissy because YOU, didn't think of the: "OIL HERE"----> thingy !

dancing LMAO ROFF


When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
15 January 2016, 09:57
montea6b
quote:
Originally posted by ramrod340:
quote:
And now the best; chop the whole thing off and glue on more wood.

Thought that was his suggestion. OK still too lazy to out outside but looking at pictures the tip would be touching the front checkering Frowner

Yeah, the success of this approach totally depends on your starting point. In my case there was no checkering, (yet) the forearm was too long for my taste, and it had a plastic tip. Shortening the stock and adding an ebony tip was the real objective, losing the old hole was just a side effect.

Ironically, I ended up reattaching the swivel to the stock again, but if I had planned to use a barrel band swivel, the old hole would have been very neatly eliminated.

Not disguised, just gone...
15 January 2016, 20:30
ramrod340
quote:
My suggestion; make a new stock. That would fix it for sure

Yep that for sure would be one way. You do remember I've been sick and way behind. Wink

However, this all begain when I started looking for a rifle to give to my stepson. He wanted something I had built. As discussed in another thread. The "stock" he wants has a 25-06 MKX barreled action.

I stumbled on what the ad said was a 270 MKX barreled action in a rifle. I made a low ball bid and it ended up winning. When I picked up the rifle it was a MKX action with a PO Ackley installed 270 barrel with band (the one pic that wouldn't open).

Assuming only the band was tapered and attached I could probably have the band removed and reblued. However if you have seen Ackley's labeling it is very faint. I would be concerned that it would all but disappear during reblue.

My stepson has no clue who Ackley was and could care less I'm sure. I was looking for a drop in swap to 270 to give him a little more rifle on the upper end.

The easiest thing might simply be find someone that wants the Ackley barreled and swap for a MKX.


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
15 January 2016, 23:00
Mark
He may not appreciate it now but 35 years down the road the Ackley gun might have the ability to pay for your grandchilds first year of college.

Besides, IMHO the rifle carries better on a sling attached higher up.

Is there a snowballs chance that you could get him to work with you on finishing a pre inlet stock? I suspect in the future he might value some sort of pre-inlet the both of you worked on together for a couple of evenings (even if he only helps for a half an hour then disappears while you spend a couple hours until the next stage) than possible a different stock you may have built from scratch.

Then again, one thing that having kids has taught me is I can't predict anything they do or want from one day to the next so you're on your own there.

Alternatively you could engrave his name or initials on a metal plate and inlet it over the hole. Or fit a bushing with an allen screw there and explain it was a pressure point, all the latest rage for tuning sub-moa hunting rifles.....


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15 January 2016, 23:37
slivers
I don't see a pic of your problem, ramrod. Any chance you could plug the hole with any hardwood and then inlet a diamond (or whatever) inlay?


16 January 2016, 00:05
ramrod340
quote:
Is there a snowballs chance that you could get him to work with you on finishing a pre inlet stock? I suspect in the future he might value some sort of pre-inlet the both of you worked on together for a couple of evenings (even if he only helps for a half an hour then disappears while you spend a couple hours until the next stage) than possible a different stock you may have built from scratch.


I would give the snowballs chances as a heck of a lot better.

Great kid but working with his hands just doesn't interest him. While he will laugh about his dad having to pay someone to hang a ceiling and thinks it is amazing I do everything myself. He just isn't interested in learning. I had a blank set aside for years for that purpose. Just didn't happen. At that time he spent the summers with us. Now in college we see him 2 weeks at Christmas and 2 weeks or so in the summer.

While I would love to have been able to work with and teach him. It just isn't his thing. Now he fully appreciates a nice looking stock. Just no interest in doing it himself. Frowner


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
17 January 2016, 22:40
Bear Cat
Cut the head off a case in the same caliber, plug the hole with wood , recess the case head in the stock . If you ever want a swivel there again , just drill out the primer pocket and install swivel !


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