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My apologies
30 November 2006, 02:02
vapodogMy apologies
To all of you that have posted how poor the Remington 798 rifles are built.
I read those posts thinking it couldbn't be that bad....that some folks were shitting us and just were anti-Remington....they really couldn't be that bad!!!!!
Well, I saw my first one at Ahlman's in southern Minnesota a week ago.....I won't go in to how bad it was.....except to say that the worst post I've read was dead nuts on target....they are every bit that bad and my apologies to you folks that have posted the truth and I didn't believe it.
These things are the worst production guns I've ever seen in my life!!~!!~!!!
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30 November 2006, 02:12
SnowwolfeEven worse than the new Tikka's?
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
30 November 2006, 02:23
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by Snowwolfe:
Even worse than the new Tikka's?
on a scale of 1-10, I'd rate the Remington 798 a -6!
Are the Tikka's that bad?
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30 November 2006, 02:38
ramrod340quote:
on a scale of 1-10, I'd rate the Remington 798 a -6!
Are the Tikka's that bad?
On the 2 798s I saw I would rate the metal as a basic Daly. "OK" but nothing to get excited about. The stock and the inletting was a joke. Hard to believe you can leave that big a gap and still get everything put together that crooked.
The Tikka's I looked at last week looked OK for factory. They were the wood stock model.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
30 November 2006, 03:16
vapodogquote:
On the 2 798s I saw I would rate the metal as a basic Daly.
I owned two Daly rifles and have seen but one Remington 798 but the metal finish on the Dalys was considerably better than the Remington.
Wood to metal fit on the M-798 is so bad that I'm astonished Remington let them out of the factory.
If I was to give it a letter grade A+ to F, the quality would have to improve a very long ways just to rate an F!!!
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30 November 2006, 03:43
TC1Too bad, I wrote off Remington long ago then looked at a .30-06 100 year anniversary edition model 700 and was very impressed with it. I wonder if they are made in different factories?
Terry
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30 November 2006, 03:45
SnowwolfeThe Tikka's I looked at looked like every cost saving measure in the word was performed on them to reduce there cost.
If a Savage cost $200 more I would purchase the Savage over the Tikka. Yuck!
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
30 November 2006, 08:05
ramrod340quote:
Too bad, I wrote off Remington long ago then looked at a .30-06 100 year anniversary edition model 700 and was very impressed with it. I wonder if they are made in different factories?
The metal on the 798 is the old Daly import. The stock I believe is done here. No clue if it is the same place the 700 is built.
I have never owned a 700 but I agree with you. I looked a one a couple months ago and considered buying it. Found a cheap MKX instead.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
30 November 2006, 09:54
ElCaballeroAnd all for only $200 more than a Daly!!
I knew this was not a good deal. When everyone was jumping up and down about the "new" Remington Mauser I was thinking they just screwed it up for people like me that like a budget custom. What market are they going for on this anyway? Apparently not the low budget guys, not the m700 crowd, and certainly not the high dollar custom Mauser guys.
I could go on and on with this rant. I'll just quit here.
30 November 2006, 13:51
GerryVapo-dog,
I don't think an apology is required - let Remington make one in the marketplace!
Can't say much about the "new" Remington's but the "old" Zastava's suffered much of the same, sorry to hear Remington hasn't sorted this out as it should be a good idea - in concept anyway. At least one of our stockmaker contributors should jump on the aftermarket option straight away - money to be made IMO.
The metal (read; action, the barrel died a sudden death also) really isn't too bad, for me at least as a Leftie the action was a good donor for what has now been turned into a nice 9.3x62 - the stock, like everyone else has previously mentioned; went into the firewood bin at the hunting lodge. We burned it outside just in case it was impregnated with something as nasty as it looked & was inletted.....actually a shame since I've seen alot worse pieces of wood but the inletting was the most horrible execution ever.

Cheers,
Number 10
30 November 2006, 15:58
500grainsRemington's days are numbered.
No ingenuity.
No commitment to quality or customer safety.
30 November 2006, 19:57
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
Remington's days are numbered.
No ingenuity.
No commitment to quality or customer safety.
How'd you like to be the quality manager at Remington?..........Either way, you're about to be a scapegoat and it's inevitible!!
Zastava has to be fuming about this because they had an American market thru Daly and now thru Remington they lost almost a year thru transition and will loose the market completely due to poor quality.
I'd be willing to take bets that they're courting a new importer right now!!!
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30 November 2006, 20:36
PeglegSo Vapo, How many of the new Remingtons did you order?
The only easy day is yesterday!
30 November 2006, 22:07
TC1quote:
Originally posted by ramrod340:
quote:
Too bad, I wrote off Remington long ago then looked at a .30-06 100 year anniversary edition model 700 and was very impressed with it. I wonder if they are made in different factories?
The metal on the 798 is the old Daly import. The stock I believe is done here. No clue if it is the same place the 700 is built.
I have never owned a 700 but I agree with you. I looked a one a couple months ago and considered buying it. Found a cheap MKX instead.
OK, I'm on the same page now. I thought the 798 was that crazy looking model 7 with the full length barrel rib. Thanks

Terry
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02 December 2006, 02:05
Idaho SharpshooterPretty soon it will be Ruger, Savage, and Marlin left.
Rich
02 December 2006, 02:35
Don Slaterquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Pretty soon it will be Ruger, Savage, and Marlin left.
Rich
Rich,
You are forgetting Kimber. To me a good replacement for Winchester!

02 December 2006, 09:08
BlueprintedRermington should apologize. That gun is sorry. I just handled one what a POS. All but 2 of my working guns are Remington, very sad.
02 December 2006, 09:50
seafire/B17GWell the two I have seen I didn't think that they were that much of a disaster.....
Of course maybe you guys were expecting more out of them, than I was...
I really think Rem is way over priced on them... but I was thinking of a short action to rebarrel.....
They still are better than the Mossberg Bolt actions I have seen at Walmart.. and then at one shop here, they had some guns that were made or at least sold by some outfit out of Connecticutt... that were marked like $249.00 for a synthetic stock and stainless steel barrel...I don't remember the brand name..
But those were the worst looking guns I have ever seen.. they made the cheapest looking AK that I have ever seen look real high quality...
I'd also take a Rem 798, hands down any day over a Rem 710!!!