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15 April 2016, 02:02
disassemblyAcademic Question
US made rifles have a clockwise twist on barrel threads and a clockwise twist on lands and grooves. There are European rifles that have counterclock wise threads and counterclock wise lands and grooves. If a barrel with clockwise lands and grooves was installed on an action with counterclock wise threads would the barrel eventually shoot loose?
15 April 2016, 02:08
Toomany ToolsMaybe
John Farner
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15 April 2016, 02:33
speerchucker30x378Well, now, I have personally seen and worked on EGG-FAWKING-ZACKERY, 17 gabbafrackinbazzillion British Lee Enfield 303 rifles with left hand twist and right hand threads over 35 years of professional gunsmithing and I have never seen one shoot loose. So I'd have to side with Farner and say (Maybe). But I ain't holding my breath.
The British are sort of magical with guns though.

When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
15 April 2016, 05:38
Rollandyabut what if you went down under would that still apply, cause the water reverses direction going down the drain.

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15 April 2016, 06:04
disassemblyWell, the reason for my question is I have a wonderful Austrian made barrel in .243 with counterclock wise rifling and counterclock wise threads that I have installed on my Norwegian Krag (lite load ofcourse) but it will not feed properly. I am a nut about feeding. I have always sold off anything that would jam, or skip a round. This Krag feeds 6.5X55. 6.5X57. 7X57 amd 6mm Remington beautifully. I have barrels in all the above , with right hand twist that could be threaded to the Krag----should I?
You have way too much time on your hands. Install the barrel.
15 April 2016, 08:28
kcstottColt pistols and most other 1911's have left hand rifling sooo......
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15 April 2016, 18:56
Toomany Toolsquote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
You have way too much time on your hands. Install the barrel.
Ditto
John Farner
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15 April 2016, 19:58
butchlocquote:
posted 15 April 2016 06:53 Hide Post
You have way too much time on your hands
should be the answer to a hellovalot of questions
15 April 2016, 20:26
speerchucker30x378quote:
Originally posted by Rolland:
yabut what if you went down under would that still apply, cause the water reverses direction going down the drain.
Yabuts are in the bush !
Won't make a difference. No season for toilets in Australia. Also, most toilets are shot with the rifle held horizontal. Vertical toilet shooting is messy and sometimes dangerous. Not advisable and rather unsportsmanlike.

When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
15 April 2016, 21:07
Bill LeeperI have barreled a few Norwegian Krags with right hand twist barrels and have heard of none coming off. Of course, there is always the possibility that the rifle failed as a result and the shooter was killed and that is why I never heard but I kind of doubt it. Regards, Bill
15 April 2016, 21:17
speerchucker30x378quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
I have barreled a few Norwegian Krags with right hand twist barrels and have heard of none coming off. Of course, there is always the possibility that the rifle failed as a result and the shooter was killed and that is why I never heard but I kind of doubt it. Regards, Bill
I'm suddenly weighing the possibilities of doing a few Danish Krags for a few of my customers here Billy.
OH MY ! I shouldn't think like that. That would be BAD!

When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
16 April 2016, 04:57
disassemblyThanks for this reply Bill, which was exactly what I wanted. Folks with 5368 posts are true experts on too much time.
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
I have barreled a few Norwegian Krags with right hand twist barrels and have heard of none coming off. Of course, there is always the possibility that the rifle failed as a result and the shooter was killed and that is why I never heard but I kind of doubt it. Regards, Bill
18 April 2016, 09:13
Idaho Sharpshooterthere are a number of custom barrelmakers that offer them.
www.bartleinbarrels.com offers pretty much any twist you want, left or right handed, even gain twist. They are cut rifles. I have a 6.5mm barrel on order from them. I specified left hand twist and a 1:9 to 1:8" gain twist. The notion is there to counteract the Coriolis Effect.
I read all of Brian Litz's books and spoke with him before ordering. Does talking to an expert make me one, or do I have to stay at a Holiday Inn the night before?
Rich

18 April 2016, 10:31
Hoot MurrayThey will un-screw if the barrel is not tightened up to specs. When I was stationed in northern New Mexico a fella brought me a 1917 Enfield Rifle in 30-06. He had purchased it years ago and someone re-barreled it. To get the front sight to index properly, they took a center punch and put some dimples in barrel where it contacted the front of the receiver. After a few boxes of cartridges over time the dimples flattened out and the barrel began to un-screw. That is the only one I ever saw or heard of un-screwing. It simply was not tightened up properly. Should have been faced off a little less than one thread, torqued up to specs and the chamber deepened to specs.
Hoot
18 April 2016, 16:24
BriceDue to Coriolis Effect CCW rifling will cause bullets to rise rather than drop, causing a need for hold-under. This is counter-intuitive for American shooters.