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08 August 2009, 09:20
ForrestBStipplemania
A mind-numbing amount of stippling was applied here...
and here...
A few more details...
I wanted it to look like it came out of a British shop circa 1935 and I think they succeeded (except for the 2009 date

).
The really good news is that the rifle is on schedule for a debut at the Houston Big Bore Hoot & Shoot in October.
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08 August 2009, 09:40
butchlambertForrest, I really like that!
Butch
08 August 2009, 09:46
richjForrest
very nice. you could go blind doing that.
Rich
08 August 2009, 12:39
N E 450 No2Looks good.
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08 August 2009, 13:42
WinkForrest, are you suffering from sort of glare intolerance syndrome?
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08 August 2009, 18:00
RustyDang, Forrest! Awesome! Great composition on the pictures as well!
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That's exquisite!
Someone did a whole lot of work getting that right!!! WOW!
08 August 2009, 19:31
ForrestBquote:
Originally posted by DMB:
Someone did a whole lot of work getting that right!!!
That someone is Charles Lee. Charles does some of the finest traditional rose and scroll engraving in the world. More importantly, for this job at least, he has an eye for detail and KNOWS what vintage English guns look like. He also knows the traditional techniques required to achive that look.
Unfortunately, Charles doesn't know the traditional techniques for turning on a computer; you'll have to call him:
(209) 763-5192
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08 August 2009, 19:48
tnekkccThere are Arisakas in pawn shops for ~ $100 with Springfield barrels rechambered to 300 Savage.
Many of these rifles, long ago commercially sporterized, have elaborate stippling.
I can see how masking off and using a needle scaler would get some of it done, but the elaborate lines on Arisakas baffle me. How did they keep the labor hours down?
08 August 2009, 20:37
maxbearMartini/Wiebe and Charles Lee.....holy smokes what nice work.
08 August 2009, 23:24
fla3006Very nice for sure!
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09 August 2009, 00:30
mstarling... speechless ... <<<sigh>>>
What lovely work!
I'm glad someone with real money is spending it well. Congratulations to the artisans AND the sponsor of such work.
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http://www.mstarling.com quote:
Originally posted by ForrestB:
quote:
Originally posted by DMB:
Someone did a whole lot of work getting that right!!!
That someone is Charles Lee. Charles does some of the finest traditional rose and scroll engraving in the world. More importantly, for this job at least, he has an eye for detail and KNOWS what vintage English guns look like. He also knows the traditional techniques required to achive that look.
Unfortunately, Charles doesn't know the traditional techniques for turning on a computer; you'll have to call him:
(209) 763-5192
Thank you for the details on who did the work..
Don
09 August 2009, 08:45
ForrestBHere's one more photo that shows the transition between the receiver ring and the barrel. The dovetail cut in the quarter rib is for the front foot of the claw mounts for the scope.
Duane did a marvelous job on this (doing the work and snapping the photos).
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09 August 2009, 18:07
MJinesAnother work of art in the process of being created. Going to be a beautiful rifle. Time to start thinking about killing buffalo with it.
Mike
09 August 2009, 20:04
shootawayNice but don't get to carried away and make it look like a furniture piece.
09 August 2009, 20:27
butchlambertShootaway, I have never seen anybody make an ass out of themselves any more than you. I bet your mother beat you every time you opened your mouth or should have.
Butch
09 August 2009, 21:17
Josh A.That is just beautiful work. Stippling is one of those touches that really makes a high end rifle.
j
09 August 2009, 22:13
srtraxThats not the first time I've noticed how Duane brings the round to a flat at the top of the action, and Forrest thanks for the close ups! Very nice work from all...keep this one posted.
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09 August 2009, 22:25
ScrollcutterForrest,
What a nice rifle this is going to be. Congrats!
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09 August 2009, 22:46
drewhenrytntWhile I can appreciate the amount of time that goes into stipple work, to me at first glance it looks like EDM before polishing

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WOW! Very nice. What treatment to bolt handle? If I may ask is this the GMA actioned Rigby?
Many Thanks
HBH
10 August 2009, 00:45
tasco 74VERY NICE!!!!
10 August 2009, 00:58
Von GruffThat is spectacular work.
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10 August 2009, 01:08
ForrestBquote:
Originally posted by srtrax:
Thats not the first time I've noticed how Duane brings the round to a flat at the top of the action, and Forrest thanks for the close ups! Very nice work from all...keep this one posted.
srtrax, if I understand you correctly, I think the photo might be a little misleading. The receiver ring is not flattened on top at all. Ralf Martini machined a radius on the quarter rib that almost matched the radius on the action. Duane then blended them when he machined the action and fitted the barrel.
Roger, thanks. This project has given me some ideas for what I want you to do on my 404 Jeffery when Duane is finished with the metal. It's good to know you're up and about again.
HBH, nothing was done on the bolt handle. Except Duane cut it off and rewelded it just to shorten it a bit. This is the GMA 416 Rigby. I'll post some more photos as Duane moves along. He said today he was already starting the bluing.
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10 August 2009, 02:08
maxbearForrest, I'm really getting a kick out of this.
It's hard to tell from the photo's but it looks like the stippleing around the makers name has a differant texture then the rest of the quarter rib?? Or is it all the same?? Maybe the camera is playing a trick on my 20/10's.
10 August 2009, 02:42
MHC_TXLooks great - can you bring this to lunch on Tuesday, so I can look at it closer

10 August 2009, 03:22
Duane Wiebequote:
Originally posted by maxbear:
Forrest, I'm really getting a kick out of this.
It's hard to tell from the photo's but it looks like the stippleing around the makers name has a differant texture then the rest of the quarter rib?? Or is it all the same?? Maybe the camera is playing a trick on my 20/10's.
Max: Since I have the metal here, thought I'd answer..You have sharp eyes! Now, I've done a fair amount of stippling (not in this class, however) I've found that a slight change in the angle the tool is held to the work can make the appearance of different texture. Around the names, this is a tight area...I suspect Charles had to compensate..working to each border...maybe Scrollcutter can tell us how it REALLY works.
10 August 2009, 16:48
maxbearGlad to see you reply Duane. I just love the way stippleing looks on a rifle, and find any information regarding its application to metal useful. Maybe someday I'll try my hand at it.
Thanks for the reply!
10 August 2009, 17:17
maxbearCrosshatching the recoil lug screws gives them a nice touch. Always a lot of thought put into your rifles.
10 August 2009, 19:28
Hog KillerWorkld Class work!

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10 August 2009, 19:59
tiggertateBeautiful work. Forrest, thanks for keeping tradition alive in the 21st century.
Duane, is the relief of the front ring on either side of the rib milled, or did you hand-file that?
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10 August 2009, 20:26
ScrollcutterForrest,
Hot diggity! I look forward to it.
Duane and Max,
I can see a little diffence in the sheen of the stippling around the lettering, but assumed it was some glare from the lighting...Duane's absolutely correct about the angle of the stippling tool, but this job looks very uniform and well done to me.
It's hard to tell with photos over the internet. Go ahead and finish it up and put it together. Ship it down to me with a couple of boxes of ammo and I look at the rifle in good light...
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10 August 2009, 22:25
maxbearYes, it does look very uniform and well done. Just to clarify, I wasn't critizing. I just thought that maybe the stippling around the makers name was intended to look that way.
Nice to hear from you Roger, when your done with the rifle I'd like my turn with it down here in Kansas...
What type of tool is used when stippling??
Thanks
11 August 2009, 00:27
srtraxquote:
Duane, is the relief of the front ring on either side of the rib milled, or did you hand-file that?
Didnt make myself clear enough, (in the 2nd photo) the top of the reciever ring comes to a flat at the top while the rest is tapered. I really like how Duane does this...Very classy touch...details, its in the details!

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11 August 2009, 00:37
tiggertateI understood; I was just wondering how the bevel was achieved. It looks tight for a mill.
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11 August 2009, 01:25
ScrollcutterI use a micrograined carbide sharpened to a point.
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11 August 2009, 03:08
30 Caliber Mag FanForrest-
Your rifle in-progress is "in-freakin-credible."
I am drooling like my 100 pound Labrador Retreiver when he eyes my steak.
Congratulations and thanks for sharing.
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11 August 2009, 03:46
Duane Wiebequote:
Originally posted by tiggertate:
Beautiful work. Forrest, thanks for keeping tradition alive in the 21st century.
Duane, is the relief of the front ring on either side of the rib milled, or did you hand-file that?
Hand held tools,files, dremel, etc.