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color case hardening
01 May 2007, 08:07
Evan K.color case hardening
Does anyone have experience with doing this? I'm looking to have some stock hardware (skeletonized buttplate, skeletonized grip cap, trigger guard, magazine plate, swivel studs) case hardened.
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy."
01 May 2007, 10:36
tin canDoug Turnbull; there are others.
http://www.turnbullrestoration.com/service.price.htmI've used Turnbull twice. The turn around time is fast. and the work is beautiful. You'll have to do your own polishing though.
Terry
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Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
TC1,
Good looking color case hardening job. That's high class!
For me, color case hardening is huge turn-on. I love it!!! Grin. Like octagon barrels too, I can drool all day looking at them.
Don
01 May 2007, 18:08
Marc_StokeldDoug won't do the skeleton butt and grip cap. They will often move a good deal and leave gaps in your inletting.
OT, TC1 I sure would like to see a right side photo of your butter knife bolt handle.
Thank you for your time, great looking triggerguard.
Burgie
Evan:
I use John Gillette at Classic Guns in Beecher, IL.
http://classicgunsinc.com/Howsomever, as stated it is very difficult to color harden parts with thin cross sections like a skeleton butt plate with out the metal moving. It can be done but is risky.
Also, small parts like the sling studs and the like generally don't show much color, tending toward tan or brown. The best colors are developed on larger pieces. The floor plate will come out fine, as well as the trigger guard. They could probably get pretty good color on the skeleton pieces but it there is risk.
Glenn Fewless
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Originally posted by Burgie:
OT, TC1 I sure would like to see a right side photo of your butter knife bolt handle.
Thank you for your time, great looking triggerguard.
Burgie
Not a problem, but I've got to tell you this bolt knob is sitting in Stuart Satterlee's garbage can. In about a month or so I'm going to show some "new and improved" BRNO21H pic's.
Terry
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Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
01 May 2007, 23:43
Marc_StokeldI prefer the English case coloring that has straws, browns, very muted blues, and greys. I was given a reference of Andrew McFarland-I believe in SD-last week as a finisher who got true English colors.
The "American case colors" are more bright purple, strong blue, very vibrant and jump out at you. If this is what you prefer, then Turnbull and Gillette are very good at this. These colors are OK in their own right and are appropriate for certain firearms. But they are out of place on English guns. And from an artistic point of view, quite often they are a detriment to the overall visual impact of a gun-much like most gold inlays.
If you are interested in English case coloring, I can get Stan's number. He is who I will use for an English-styled project I am working on right now.
02 May 2007, 00:26
tin can"butter knife":
looking forward to "new and improved" BRNO21H pics.
I like CC on rings, shroud,
and-
both triggerguard & floor plate CC'd
or
floorplate CC'd, blued guard
or
triggerguard CC'd, blued floorplate
...and the bolt release.
...starting to sound like a whorehouse if all were used.
02 May 2007, 00:30
Marc_StokeldTC1-
I thought the first picture was to show colors on the triggerguard, but I just realized what it was about. I really like the greys, browns, and the unique "orange" Turnbull put on your swing chain. Very nice!!!
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Originally posted by Marc_Stokeld:
TC1-
I thought the first picture was to show colors on the triggerguard, but I just realized what it was about. I really like the greys, browns, and the unique "orange" Turnbull put on your swing chain. Very nice!!!

Don
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Originally posted by Marc_Stokeld:
TC1-
I thought the first picture was to show colors on the triggerguard, but I just realized what it was about. I really like the greys, browns, and the unique "orange" Turnbull put on your swing chain. Very nice!!!

Terry
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Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
It's over at Paul Dressels getting a new stock now. If you're a traditionalist I'm sure you won't like it.

Terry
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Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
02 May 2007, 08:18
Evan K.I'm thinking of hunting around my town to see if there's a machine shop that would have a furnace that could do the job, but other than that what do you think these guys would charge? They list prices for revolver/rifle actions... not smaller parts. Do you think the prices could be halfway negotiable?
I've been doing alot of reading and if I find a place where I could experiment some and teach myself how to do it, I'll certainly do it. For me, shipping the peices off would be the last thing I'll do.
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy."
02 May 2007, 08:56
AllenBoselyHey Mark,
I would like Stan's number if you don't mind posting it. Thanks
Allen
It's a Mauser thing, you wouldn't understand.
02 May 2007, 09:19
shootawayThe butter knife bolt handle can pose a problem if you have on a thick winter coat.The sleeve of the coat on your trigger arm gets under the handle lifting it up while you are squeezing the trigger,this causes the rifle not to fire.I owned a rifle with such a bolt handle for 20 yrs and I had this happen to me on hunts where game was scarce.It took me a while to figure out the problem because it would never do it to me at the range or during fall time.