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Sporterized Mauser
29 September 2008, 00:19
pepperbellySporterized Mauser
I was pawn shop crawling earlier today and came across a sporterized Mauser.
The left side of the receiver is stamped Mod 98. The bolt looks original as does the safety but the bolt handle may have been altered. I really can't tell by the short look I had.
The barrel has been changed. The only markings I can find is "Evans" either engraved or stamped on the barrel near the rear. It looks like a professional mark and was in script- I think. It wasn't block stamped. There is no front sight and no marks where it looks as if someone removed it. The barrel itself is a sporter contour- not a cut down military barrel. There is some bluing loss from wear but no dings.
It is in an aftermarket stock. The inletting looks very good. I couldn't see a gap between the wood and metal. It has a Monte Carlo comb and has a pretty good oil finish.
It has been drilled and tapped and has an older Weaver K4 duplex scope on it in what I believe are medium ring. The scope is clear and bright. I am kind of partial to older Weaver scopes so this is a plus.
I could not find a serial number anywhere. I couldn't see the top of the receiver bridge very well due to the scope mount but I didn't see any stamps there.
The real puzzler is that the caliber is not marked on the barrel. As a wild guess it looks to be near a .30 caliber but could be a .270. It doesn't look like an 8mm, but I had nothing to measure it with. The pawn shop has it marked as unknown caliber.
I am guessing that the only way to determine the caliber is a chamber casting- right?
I can probably get this rifle fairly cheap. They aren't comfortable selling it without knowing the caliber, but I know the manager and he knows that I collect these rifles and know better than to just load a round and try it. They have it priced at $159.99, but on Monday when I talk to the manager I will definately talk him down. The saleman today told me he would probably deal on it to get it out of the inventory.
Ideas?
Jim
NRA Life Member
29 September 2008, 00:37
vapodogA small hole gauge will tell you the caliber.....what chambering is another issue and if yu can do a chamber cast then go for it....if not you can narrow it down quickly by measuring the bolt face.....if it's for a .473 case head that tells you something......and if the barrel mikes .277 that pretty much tells you all you need to know.....same for .284.....if a .280 Rem shell fits it.....if not and a 7 X 57 fits it......
If it's an "Ackleyed" gun one should still be able to shoot the parent ammo in it.....
As to the price.....for $150 all one has to do is salvage the stock and you have a deal!!!
The barrel will sell for $50 easily if it's useable at all......and the action should bring another $100 or so....I don't see how you can go too wrong here.
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29 September 2008, 01:05
pepperbellyI will be getting it tomorrow if he will deal at all. He usually does, especially with something weird like this. They sound very uncomfortable having a rifle in an unknown caliber. Apparently they are afraid of liability if someone just puts a 30-06 in to try and see what happens. Unfortunalely there are people like that out there.
I'll post again after I get it and take it apart to look for more info stamped on it.
BTW I will buy it to shoot, not sell parts and make money on. It is good to know that it is a bargain though.
Jim
NRA Life Member
29 September 2008, 01:20
WestpacThat's a pretty good gig for aspiring gunsmiths. Contact the local pawn shops and offer to perform a safety inspection and caliber verification on their guns before they are sold. That would go a long way in reducing the potential liability concerns over a store that doesn't provide the service, which would be a draw, and would give them a leg up over the competition.
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29 September 2008, 04:31
Bob GIf you could offer this service, just be sure to not make a mistake as you would be opening yourself and the other shop to a possible liability case if you are ever wrong.
Do it right the first time.
29 September 2008, 05:46
pepperbellyI don't want to help anyone else get a bargain. I want to get them myself.
I have developed a habit of passing up a rifle unless I get a really good deal on it. My last trade was 2 TC Hawken muzzleloaders that I had a total of $170.00 in for a Remington M700 PSS .308. Both Hawkens came out of pawn shops- one was $70.00 out the door and the other was $100.00 OTD.
Jim
NRA Life Member
29 September 2008, 18:09
tnekkcc15 years ago, I practiced on my gunsmithing by making offers in pawn shops on guns that needed work.
I am not that good a gunsmith, but I do well negotiating money. I mostly paid 50% of asking price, by listing all the things wrong with the gun.
What could be more fun than bringing home a gun and taking it apart?
29 September 2008, 19:03
Westpacquote:
Originally posted by tnekkcc:
What could be more fun than bringing home a gun and taking it apart?
Taking it to the range and shooting it comes to mind.
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This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life.
29 September 2008, 22:55
butchlambertI haven't been in a pawnshop in years and found a deal on a rifle. Most of those guys aren't stupid or they wouldn't be in business.
Butch
30 September 2008, 05:39
Toomany ToolsI bought 2 pre-'64 model 70s today, both 30-06, both with scopes and decent stocks, one made in '51 and one in '52, from a pawn shop for $600 each. So I guess there are some deals to be had once in a while
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