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35 Whelen to 358 Norma Mag
13 April 2005, 20:10
Sniper35 Whelen to 358 Norma Mag
Just curious if a 35 Whelen could be rechambered to 358 Norma Mag without much difficulty?
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the_captainI asked the same question not too long ago, and the responses I got were yes. The Norma reamer should clean things up nicely. The only other work would be to open up the bolt face and possibly tweak the feeding.
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14 April 2005, 01:02
AtkinsonYes it can, and the 358 Norma is a most overlooked caliber, it will compete with the 338 or the 375...I have not owned one but I have seen it perform on some very big tough animals and it impressed me to no end.....
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14 April 2005, 02:54
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by Sniper:
Just curious if a 35 Whelen could be rechambered to 358 Norma Mag without much difficulty?
Actually it depends.....if you have a pushfeed bolt it'll take a little more.....and frankly I'd rather keep the whelen than convert it. If you have a claw extracter in a CRF it's a lot easier to do.
If you really want a .358 Norma.(agree with Ray.....extremely powerful) start with a 7MM mag or some magnum in .531 Diameter now....it's a cake walk to convert them regardless of feed type.
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14 April 2005, 23:00
Papa CappI had one done on a M98. Be sure the smith is comfortable with doing the feed work. Mine wasn't so I only paid for the rechamber and boltface but did the feeding myself.
It most definitely will get your attention, esp. with 280gr Swifts, but I have not managed to work up better than about 1.75" @ 100yd groups with a 1-14" barrel.
15 April 2005, 08:03
Bwana-beIt'll definitely kick buitt with 250's, but if you;re really into the 270-310g bullets, go 1-12.
15 April 2005, 21:30
okie johnWhat 35 Whelen are you converting? The 358 NM is at its best with 250-gr. and heavier bullets, but Remington and Remington factory 35 Whelens have a 1:16 twist, which is a bit slow for 250-gr. bullets. The faster speed of the Norma might make up for the slower twist, but it might not. If it's a custom 35 Whelen with a faster twist, all the previous advice applies. Also, the factory 35 Whelens have 22" barrels, which is kind of short for the Norma cartridge.
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16 April 2005, 12:41
okie johnMy M-77 Mk II had a 22" barrel and a 1:16 twist. Before you rechamber, work up to the max load of RL-15 (per the Alliant website) under a 250-gr. Nosler Partition or either 250-gr. Hornady bullet. If your Ruger is like mine, you'll get 2,550 fps and 1 MOA with all three. Then crunch the numbers through the ballistic calculator on the Norma website, then hump that little 7.5-lb rifle over some steep terrain in elk country. You may decide that with a 35 Whelen loaded to its full potential, you don't need a 358 Norma after all.
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