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04 June 2013, 09:36
loiblb
Inletting advice
I just received a very fine stock I ordered from a stock maker. The walnut is tight grained and heavily figured aaa grade he called it. The action is 90% inletted for a fine little 1910 Mexican mauser I had rebarrled in 7x57. I need a little advice on inletting this stock. I have done one once before just by luck it worked out
04 June 2013, 09:44
Dennis Earl Smith
Purchase Dave Wesbrook's book Professional Stockmaking. This book not only has descriptions of how to inlet a stock, but exactingly explicit pictures of the descriptions. It is so much faster than typing and lasts longer too.


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04 June 2013, 17:25
Jim Kobe
Good advice Dennis!!


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10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Former Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild

04 June 2013, 17:42
D Humbarger
Just always remember that you can ALWAYS take out a bit more wood but you can't put any back.
Go slow & be patient. Inlet the trigger guard first & use action inletting screws to keep the barreled action & the trigger guard in alignment.



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04 June 2013, 19:11
matt salm
File a draft on metal parts to be inletted like the triggerguard. The deeper you go, the tigher it all gets and it's easier to get a clean inlet...that's what an uncle taught me and I've found it to work very well.


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Matt
04 June 2013, 21:10
dpcd
Inletting black and very sharp chisels, made for fine work, not the ones from your local hardware store. And as stated, go slowly; you will get a feel for it. Watch the grain and always control your chisels; never push one that you do not have control of when it stops.
04 June 2013, 22:36
slivers
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis Earl Smith:
Purchase Dave Wesbrook's book Professional Stockmaking. This book not only has descriptions of how to inlet a stock, but exactingly explicit pictures of the descriptions. It is so much faster than typing and lasts longer too.
And the best part is, it's back in print. Amazon.....


05 June 2013, 00:27
larrys
As Chic Worthing once told me..."If you don't have the patience to look at dust, scrape one shaving at a time and check for fit 100 times before it is right, just call someone." That has worked for the few I have done for myself.


Larry

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05 June 2013, 01:05
jørgen
quote:
Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Just always remember that you can ALWAYS take out a bit more wood but you can't put any back.
Go slow & be patient. Inlet the trigger guard first & use action inletting screws to keep the barreled action & the trigger guard in alignment.

Why inlet the triggerguard first.
For the first few hundred riflestocks i did by hand, from blanks, i always sawed the silhuetshape by a bandsaw. Then Draw the centerline, inletted the barreled action. Drilled holes for the screws, and used 2 guidepins for guiding the triggerguard.
After inletting, i mesured drop, cast off and toe out. Installed the recoilpad.
Then i only had to shape the outercontours between the action and the recoilpad. Growing lazy, i alvays used the bandsaw to remowe as mutch Wood as possible.
For the final contouring i used mostly "surform" tools, and Sharp cutting "carbody" or alu files. They cut, without compressing the Wood.

Sanding was roughed with inflatable rotating cylindrical dewices. Finish sanding was done with high rev sandingmashines (first an elictrical Rockwell. Later with a pneumatic Nito Kochi Free sander FS100c)
Checkering was done by hand for the guidelines, and by a mmc for the filling out.

Avarage productiontime for a standard riflestock, was 6-10 hrs, for better quality 10-16hrs.

Later i grew more lazy, and invested in copying routers, and cnc for inletting, then the productiontime was reduced to 1½ hrs pr stock. Sawn, inletted, contoured sanded checkered and oiled
05 June 2013, 03:20
ramrod340
quote:
For the first few hundred riflestocks i did by hand, from blanks, i always sawed the silhuetshape by a bandsaw. Then Draw the centerline, inletted the barreled action. Drilled holes for the screws, and used 2 guidepins for guiding the triggerguard.

For me there is a large difference in inletting a blank from scratch and inletting a 90% inletted blank. the 90% gives very little room for error. So like they said go SLOW you can always take off more.


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
06 June 2013, 20:08
Mike Ray
just inletted a curly maple stock a little different than usual. an old timer told me that he liked to inlet the receiver before it was barreled. I tried it just because! worked a little easier seems to me.


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07 June 2013, 03:52
custombolt
quote:
Originally posted by jørgen:
quote:
Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Just always remember that you can ALWAYS take out a bit more wood but you can't put any back.
Go slow & be patient. Inlet the trigger guard first & use action inletting screws to keep the barreled action & the trigger guard in alignment.

Why inlet the triggerguard first.
For the first few hundred riflestocks i did by hand, from blanks, i always sawed the silhuetshape by a bandsaw. Then Draw the centerline, inletted the barreled action. Drilled holes for the screws, and used 2 guidepins for guiding the triggerguard.
After inletting, i mesured drop, cast off and toe out. Installed the recoilpad.
Then i only had to shape the outercontours between the action and the recoilpad. Growing lazy, i alvays used the bandsaw to remowe as mutch Wood as possible.
For the final contouring i used mostly "surform" tools, and Sharp cutting "carbody" or alu files. They cut, without compressing the Wood.

Sanding was roughed with inflatable rotating cylindrical dewices. Finish sanding was done with high rev sandingmashines (first an elictrical Rockwell. Later with a pneumatic Nito Kochi Free sander FS100c)
Checkering was done by hand for the guidelines, and by a mmc for the filling out.

Avarage productiontime for a standard riflestock, was 6-10 hrs, for better quality 10-16hrs.

Later i grew more lazy, and invested in copying routers, and cnc for inletting, then the productiontime was reduced to 1½ hrs pr stock. Sawn, inletted, contoured sanded checkered and oiled
90 minutes to completion? I can't imagine that. Sorry. A picture is worth a thousand words.


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07 June 2013, 18:01
Jim Kobe
quote:
Originally posted by custombolt:
quote:
Originally posted by jørgen:
quote:
Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Just always remember that you can ALWAYS take out a bit more wood but you can't put any back.
Go slow & be patient. Inlet the trigger guard first & use action inletting screws to keep the barreled action & the trigger guard in alignment.

Why inlet the triggerguard first.
For the first few hundred riflestocks i did by hand, from blanks, i always sawed the silhuetshape by a bandsaw. Then Draw the centerline, inletted the barreled action. Drilled holes for the screws, and used 2 guidepins for guiding the triggerguard.
After inletting, i mesured drop, cast off and toe out. Installed the recoilpad.
Then i only had to shape the outercontours between the action and the recoilpad. Growing lazy, i alvays used the bandsaw to remowe as mutch Wood as possible.
For the final contouring i used mostly "surform" tools, and Sharp cutting "carbody" or alu files. They cut, without compressing the Wood.

Sanding was roughed with inflatable rotating cylindrical dewices. Finish sanding was done with high rev sandingmashines (first an elictrical Rockwell. Later with a pneumatic Nito Kochi Free sander FS100c)
Checkering was done by hand for the guidelines, and by a mmc for the filling out.

Avarage productiontime for a standard riflestock, was 6-10 hrs, for better quality 10-16hrs.

Later i grew more lazy, and invested in copying routers, and cnc for inletting, then the productiontime was reduced to 1½ hrs pr stock. Sawn, inletted, contoured sanded checkered and oiled
90 minutes to completion? I can't imagine that. Sorry. A picture is worth a thousand words.


Ayyuup! Kinda hard to imagine! I guess that would put the price of a custom stock, less the wood, at about $110???


Jim Kobe
10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Former Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild

07 June 2013, 18:27
Dennis Earl Smith
There are some really gifted men/women in this world who can do amazing feats of skill. I have met some of them. Those of us in the trade in the US figure at least 20-60 hours to accomplish the inletting tasks asked about in this tread depending on skill/wood type/weather/etc.. FWIW


Dennis Earl Smith
Professional Member ACGG
Benefactor Life NRA
Life NAHC