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can you tell me about compositio of these austrian barrel steels?

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02 August 2002, 00:09
Danny Pay
can you tell me about compositio of these austrian barrel steels?
Hi
It seems there are some future gunsmiths in this web site . I would know what sort of steels are the folowing austrian sgun steels B�HLER RASANT ,B�HLER ANTINIT .or german DRIERING KRUPP As a former toll maker I had to learn about hardening and tempering and machining of many sorts of steel, but I can,t find any information about austrian and german gunsteels. i,ll be glad If you can give some information .
Best regards
Danny
04 August 2002, 11:54
edi malinaric
Hello Danny - I was hoping that some other body would come up with an answer to your question.

Bohler Antinit refers to the chrome alloy family of steels. My book gives me no fewer than 43 different Bohler steels that fall under the catch-name Antinit. They range from AISI 302 to AISI 502. Unfortunately it doesn't say which one of these they use for barrels!

Just scanning through the constituents I would hazard a guess that they would use KW80 which you would know as AISI 440B or 4112.

On Bohler Rasant and Driering Krupp I haven't a clue.
Sorry I can't do better - cheers edi
06 August 2002, 02:17
Danny Pay
Hi
Thanks for your reply. I beleive the steel name is Antinit CRG? a freind of mine advised me if i'll buy austrian guns then better to buy those with better quality steel other wise those nice guns are senesitive to rust,.
Best regards
Danny
PS. if you know about the CRG antint then please tellme.
06 August 2002, 17:26
edi malinaric
Hello Danny - sometimes it is better not to listen too closely to friends.

Bohler's have been making steel for over a 100 years and have a good name in the firearms world. If they are prepared to put their name onto a barrel I would not worry too much about it not performing as a barrel.

About rust - now that is another thing. The answer is in your own hands.

I live about 150m from the Atlantic Ocean and none of my firearms show any signs of rust.

The secret? It's called OIL.

Not too much - it only needs to be a molecule or three thick - but it must be there.

After I have handled any of my firearms I put a little oil onto a piece of cloth and wipe over all the exposed metal surfaces and handle it by the wood as I place it back on the rack.

Note that word "little" in the above sentence - don't pour the oil onto the metal and then wipe it off - you will only get it to soak into the wood - which is a bad thing.

It the way I was taught to do it in 1953 - and almost 50 years of experience seems to suggest that it works and that there will be no rusting.

When I return home after firing my rifle I push a bronze brush through the barrel followed by a jag with an oily patch. All barrels remain looking mirror bright inside.

Anyway looking after ones firearms is a good excuse to do a little dreaming.

cheers edi

who, this coming weekend, will be driving up to the Kalahari to look for a gemsbok/springbok - so I'd better go check that the barrel bore is clean and bright :-)
07 August 2002, 09:53
Danny Pay
Hi Edi
Your are living in a country blessed by dry climate ,it is why you don't feel in the same way as we living in far north with high humidity. een a gun made entirly of stainless steel would rust if not properly cared. here in sweden we have a gun maker called Flodman who makes o/u amd combos in stailess spring steel to meet the cold and humid climate of the north ,but the prices is high the guns are very well made and super strong but, don't have the elegance of austrian made guns.
best regards
Danny
07 August 2002, 02:03
aHunter
Buy such a beauty, Ferlacher rifles are pieces of art! Properly maintained ( without handloadin!! ) they will be fine hunting tools for generations!

The problem with easier than usual rusting may be the traditional blueing process more than the steel.

As stated above: oil, RIG or Vaseline!

Hermann
07 August 2002, 05:31
edi malinaric
Danny, Danny ,Danny - of course it will rust if it is not properly looked after. Believe me if you live within 150m of the sea you live with a serious corrosion problem.

Looking after your gun should be a pleasure not a pain.

How and where do you store the gun?

High humidity by itself is no problem. We have places in the country where 85% humidity is seen as a dry day - the plants begin to wilt - the sales of beer rocket.....!

Your storage place should be well ventilated and the temperature should always be above the Dew Point. The easiest way of achieving the last is to fit a 20 - 40W electric lamp near the floor and leave it burning. Gaps of 15 - 20mm at the top and bottom of the door should take care of the ventilation.