have just got my B.C composite stock for my 264 winnie. Had to do a bit of inletting but not much! Glass bedded around the recoil lug and the first 2" of the barrel, the gun is shooting about 1" groups with the reloads that I just thru together and did no load development.Is it worth pillar bedding? and what material do you reccomend for the pillars?

regards

griff

If you can feel "play" in the action when loosening the tang screws, billarbedding might be the thing, as theese BC stocks are quite soft and easy to bend. If so, aluminum pillars are easy and light weight. But, your grouping does not indicate that pillars are needed.

Bent,
It certainly is a tight fit in the stock and there is no play whatsoever.
The front end of the stock is very flexible and I an dissapointed with that part of it..
There are no stocks available for the 264 that have the full length alloy bedding block..
I could mill out a groove down the centre of the fore end and epoxy in a stiffening bar, but at what stage do you say enough is enough..

regards
griff

Griff,

You could of course stiffen the stock with epoxy and a bar, and this is the best solution if you shoot your barrel warm. Or, you could make a preassure point in the front part of the fore-end. This is superb in a composite stock as long as it is for hunting - after 3 rapid shots your point of impact will raise due to the swelling of the barrel.

Your use will define your solution.

Regards,

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Originally posted by griff:
have just got my B.C composite stock for my 264 winnie. Had to do a bit of inletting but not much! Glass bedded around the recoil lug and the first 2" of the barrel, the gun is shooting about 1" groups with the reloads that I just thru together and did no load development.Is it worth pillar bedding? and what material do you reccomend for the pillars?

regards

griff

Personally, I wouldn't pillar bed this.....I don't see the advantage.

Pillars and glass bedding are used to address two different sources of trouble regarding rifle accuracy. In stocks that are easily compressed, i.e. soft wood, cheap plastic, etc. pillars are used to support and maintain the vertical alignment of the action and bottom metal when seated tightly in the stock. Maintaining this alignment is critical to accuracy.

Glass bedding on the other hand is used to support and prevent the lateral movement of the action during recoil.

All weapons can benefit from glass bedding to one degree or another, but not all weapons require pillars. And as stated by those who have replied above, your's doesn't seem to need the pillars yet, although installing them won't hurt a thing.

P.S. Happy birthday to my brother Marines and happy Veterans day to all the other veterans...

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Originally posted by malm:

P.S. Happy birthday to my brother Marines and happy Veterans day to all the other veterans...

Malm,

Semper Fi

Craig
USMC '68 -'71

I agree with Malm, pillars are for soft wood or fill, in that they stop compression of the distance between the action and the trigger guard.

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Originally posted by griff:
...I could mill out a groove down the centre of the fore end and epoxy in a stiffening bar, ...

Hey Griff, An aluminum Arrow Shaft(or two) works well for this and holds the weight down.
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Malm and Craigster, SEMPER FI

Hot Core,

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Griff,

Do you intend to shoot this rifle using a harris bipod?

In the past I had a Ruger with a sythetic stock which i free floated and at the range it shot fine..However in the field, i found i was getting the odd "flier"when shooting with a bipod...It turns out that if I was not careful, I was putting to much pressure on the stock and it was warping enough to touch the barrel. I ended up putting a pressure pad back in and although the groups opened up a little, they were far more consistant..

Regards,

Pete