Are the Lothar Walther and Blackstar companies related in any way..

just curious

As I understand it, Blackstar bought L-W barrells before lapping and did their proprietary electro-polish and "choke" job on.

The Lothar Walthar you buy from Woody is a better barrel, IMO.

Woody?

Jack you are absolutly correct IMO too.

InfoSponge---

Woody is the phone credit card killer at Lothar Walthar in Georgia that you talk (and talk and talk and talk) when you order barrels. Nice guy too.

It's considerably better on the phone bill if he calls YOU.

Woody is the most knowledgeable man about barrels I have spoken to in a long time.

His barrels are first rate too.

Woody's phone number please ? I want to order a 9.3 barrel from him. T.I.A.

Jack,

How would you rate the Lothar-Walther barrels against Shilen?

LW is better.

They act very German in that they do things their way period. But their product is top quality.

[ 04-10-2003, 18:55: Message edited by: 500grains ]

Hi guys, Lothar-Walther barrels seem to have a good reputation. I am considering a featherweight Lothar-Walther barrel to put on a montana short action. Does anybody have any experience with the featherweight barrel? Especially accuracy and satisfaction wise. Thanks to anybody who may reply.

Cropduster,

http://www.lothar-walther.de/us/

(770) 889-9998

I only use LW barrel these days, they all shoot fantastic groups...Blackstars process did more damage than good on them....LW has a honing process 2nd to none....I have used and like Krieger, Dounglas, Pac-Nor and Lilja, but I'm staying with LW and the more I use them the better I like them.

I clicked on their link, but didn't see any detail anywhere on the specifications of their barrels and what is available except for a page about Mausers. Is there a pricer list or anything available?

[ 04-11-2003, 00:35: Message edited by: Fjold ]

500 gr---

Funny you should mention Shilen and L-W and the "German attitude".

I haven't used a Shilen barrel in more than 20 years because they wouldn't change the contour to fit what I think looks good and Douglas did.

I've NEVER had Lothar Walthar supply anything but exactly what I wanted including special tapers, contours and furniture.

I think the attitudes got totally reversed in this case.

I've not yet heard of a L-W barrel that didn't shoot better than I would have expected from something else.

OK, using a L-W barrel, what barrel contour would you recommend for a 35 Whellan and why?

54JNoll----

The contour of the barrel depends entirely on what kind of rifle you're building.

A short carbine for North East bear hunting would have one barrel and an express rifle for large African antelope with classic quarter rib and furniture totally different.

The accuracy difference makes no difference whatever in a game rifle and all that counts is how you carry it, how much you want it to weigh and how you want it to balance.

The Whelan is small enough to shoot well in a light gun and big enough to look good in a big one.

To duplicate Col. Whelen's Griffen and Howe double heat-treat '03 Springfield would take a L-W 1300 contour.

Has anybody had any experience with the LW octagonal barrels? Can they be counted on to shoot as well as a nomal round barrel, or is it risky business to get an octagonal blank??

- mike

Thanks Jack that helps some.

OK the 1300 contour is their standard Sporter which they list at 26" which I think would be a little long.

I prefer my rifles to ballance at the point where my left hand (support hand) grasps the rifle for normal shooting. My Left hand normally supports a rifle just in front of the floor plate. I have short arms (pit of arm to tip of fingers 26"). I am thinking a 24 inch barrel would be better or perhaps a 22 incher. I realize much of the ballance will be a result of the wood and the stocking also. The ballance point at this location seems to allow me to naturally place the rifle on target. All others seem wippy to me if the ballance is between my hands. I am thinking I want it to weigh in the 7-7.5 pound range. Ballance is more important than exact weight. I have some light 6.25 pound weapons with porr ballance that feel like trying to shoot a lead pipe while havevier weapons with good ballance feel lively in the hands.

This rifle would be used for Black Bear, Elk, Moose, and Carabou. Therefore it will be carried more then sat with. I do not like really light rifles as I feel they are not stable enough when breathing hard from a fast climb with the wind blowing. I am firmly in the camp that believes it is far better for the hunter to loose 5 pounds from around his middle than 1 pound from his rifle. In that vein My chest is still larger than my middle. I am not worried about taking a long barrel into brush as I regularly take muzzleloader with 33 and 38 inch barrels through brush after deer and rabbits. The rifle may see minimal use for deer where due to landowner preferences I am limited to stand hunting. Not looking for any quarter ribs or express sights.

I think I know what I want just not sure how to explain it.

Thanks,

Woody yes he knows his stuff. But his German Fr�ulein engineer at the shot show she is some darling looker with an amazing barrel know how.
She even speaks German. Lothar Walther makes super accurate barrels.Fred M.