02 June 2003, 13:03
UltramanKleinguenther, JB, Atkinson ru there?
Kleinguenther .270 marked 'Voere Voehrenbach' on one side of barrel and 'Germany' on the other. Original muzzle brake and very handsome wood. Gun came in to me for an annual service by original owner who's father gave it to him in the early to mid 70's (he recalls). Said it had never been serviced and I can tell that is correct. I am so impressed by the build quality of this rifle, the welds, the harware, piullars, attention to detail, fit,finish. Its rare I get a gun in that I am truely jealous of but this is certainly one of those times. I have always heard of a vague story of these guns being built by an incredible German man just meer miles down the road and then the company was sold, quality went to hell and yada-yada but have never read anything definitive. Searching this forum and others has not helped either. I would be very curious to hear facts about this gun and/or the company etc from one of you in 'the know' and would really appreciate some lore on this one. Atkinson, JBelk I bet you know Thanks Gentlemen
Klienguenther, Inc. of Sequin, Texas was the importer of the German made Voere rifles during the '70s. These included models known as the K14 and K15, which were modern style bolt actions of nice quality. In the late '70s, some of the Voere firm moved across the border to Kufstein, Austria and produced rifles on Mauser 98 actions, also of exceptional quality. The Austrian side is still in business, I'm not sure about the German factory.
02 June 2003, 15:37
AtkinsonKurt about said it all...
02 June 2003, 15:44
prof242While in the Air Force as a marksmanship instructor in San Antonio, I worked part-time for O.E. Dunlap, a small, but really good gunshop. We stocked a variety of Kleingunther rifles and would go up to his shop every few months to pick up new ones. When we installed a scope, and if the owner was not in a hurry, I would take it with me to the range the next day and zero it. Never had a bad one!
02 June 2003, 17:40
CustomstoxThe last Kleingunther actions I saw were pieces of crap. These were not 98's and you could bend the action with ease with your hands. I was very unimpressed.
03 June 2003, 07:16
Bill SovernsI built 2 rifles for a client bases on those actions. They were the K15's. Had to be the most frustrating experience I have ever been through. Both rifles turned out well and shot very well surprisingly. Chic is right. Those actions can be bent easily....and they stay bent.
03 June 2003, 08:54
Bill LeeperThey bend because the receiver itself is made of mild steel. The locking lug seats are a seperate piece held in place by the barrel and by a little set screw.
What I remember best about the Klienguenther was the test targets. The holes were the same size regardless of caliber and seemed to have been made with a paper punch. The use of colored beeswax to fill in the gap between barrel and forend was an interesting technique.
I barrel a Voere a couple years back and was again reminded of their lack of quality. I'm not a fan. Regards, Bill
04 June 2003, 00:13
Bubba JohnI had a K14 once upon a time, and it was good, but I have had others just as good. I have a Voere "Cougar" 98k rebuild now in .300 WM just as good, or maybe a little better.