29 May 2001, 16:06
<Old Dick>Lever Gun Problems
I have a 94 Win. in 357 mag. When loading the magazine, the cartridges slip behind the spring cover (loading gate) and jam the rifle. Anyone know how to fix this? The gun is almost new.
30 May 2001, 04:20
DB BillMy dad taught me what the military calls a "field expedient" solution. Don't stick each cartrdige in all the way...put the first one in part-way...take a second cartridge and push the first one in all the way but leave the second one half-way in as you did the first. Just repeat this process until the magazine is full. Takes a bit of practive but works great.
30 May 2001, 13:52
<Fat Bastard>My 94 in 44 mag has done the same thing twice, but when I work the lever too slowly, not when I load it. How do you clear it? I have to take the plug out of the front end of the tube and pour the rounds out the front.
Unfortunately, I don't know what causes it, or how to fix it. The shell stop seems pretty small to begin with, so it never gets a decent bite on the case. Maybe yours is out of spec, worn, not timed right, etc. If the guns is almost new, you could always ship it back to Winchester.
30 May 2001, 15:03
<Old Dick>I tried this and it loaded, but when I fired it, the cartridges slipped past the magazine stop and jammed it big time. and like Fat Bastard, I had to take the plug out and dump them out the end to clear it. Thanks for the answer, Dick
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Originally posted by DB Bill:
My dad taught me what the military calls a "field expedient" solution. Don't stick each cartrdige in all the way...put the first one in part-way...take a second cartridge and push the first one in all the way but leave the second one half-way in as you did the first. Just repeat this process until the magazine is full. Takes a bit of practive but works great.
[This message has been edited by Old Dick (edited 05-30-2001).]
31 May 2001, 03:34
DB BillSounds like your problem is specific for smaller cartridges and I wonder if it is related to spring tension or something like that. Load it with only 2 or 3 cartridges and try it. If it doesn't jam, keep trying it with more cartridges one at a time until it does. If this doesn't work there is always the old standby, take it to a gun smith. You also might try calling the people at Brockman's or Wild West Rifles..they specialize in lever actions and it might be something really simple. Good luck!
31 May 2001, 15:57
AtkinsonYour rounds are overriding the stop..Either wear or just a faulty part...Brockman can fix it...208-934-5050
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If it is a recently manufactured M-94, send it back to the factory. If it is an old Model 1892 conversion, you will need to find and old experienced gunsmith. Good luck.
04 June 2001, 04:20
Bill LeeperThe shell stop is obviously inadequate. The common repair is to weld up the stop then recut it to the correct dimensions. Truly not a big deal. Regards, Bill.
05 June 2001, 16:02
<Old Dick>quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
The shell stop is obviously inadequate. The common repair is to weld up the stop then recut it to the correct dimensions. Truly not a big deal. Regards, Bill.
Bill, I took the gun apart again and am sure you are right. I think that I will send it back to Winchester for repair. Thanks for the answer. Dick