re-heat treating an FN commercial (Mauser)

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16 March 2009, 03:42

JBrown

re-heat treating an FN commercial (Mauser)

I know that we have beaten the "Mauser heat treating" thing to death, but the topic of discussion has always been the military Mausers.

I have quoted an excerpt from Duane Weibe below and there have been other mentions of commercial FNs being soft. Allen Day once reported that he had seen two FNs that were in the white that had lug setback from proofing.

I would like to know if an FN can be heat-treated to bring then up to snuff.

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16 March 2009, 04:19

vapodog

If you like, I can give you the email address of Jim at PacMet and you can ask him directly.

Or pick up the phone and call him.

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16 March 2009, 04:57

Duane Wiebe

Good advice! Please post what you find out.

16 March 2009, 05:24

JBrown

Vapodog

Please PM me Jim's email and I will contact him with this question.

I will pass the info on to everyone.

16 March 2009, 07:34

vapodog

quote:
Originally posted by JBrown:
Vapodog

Please PM me Jim's email and I will contact him with this question.

I will pass the info on to everyone.

PM sent.....BTW....a couple months ago I had three receivers heat treated and the cost has risen to $150 per order.....unless one sends quite a few at a time, it's getting more and more spendy to have this done! The good news is all three a 1910 Mexican, a 1909 Argentine, and a VZ-24 all returned with no warp or ill effects!

16 March 2009, 08:38

Trez Hensley

I hear a group heat treating deal in the making. I'm in for three if a few of us want to go in together and split the cost on a per-action basis. We would need to have a coordinator that would receive them, send them out as a batch and return them to their owners in the end. It could work out well. Does anyone know how many they can handle in a single order?

16 March 2009, 10:55

Customstox

Wonder why you could not just send them in to be done in one batch and they could return them to the sender. Could be prearranged who was sending them in, with return shipping paid for or a prepaid box inside, just stick them back in and off they go.

17 March 2009, 01:21

JBrown

quote:
Originally posted by Customstox:
Wonder why you could not just send them in to be done in one batch and they could return them to the sender. Could be prearranged who was sending them in, with return shipping paid for or a prepaid box inside, just stick them back in and off they go.

Sounds good, if you guys are interested we should give it a go. I will inquire about this when I email Jim.

17 March 2009, 02:53

butchlambert

That is going to be a lot of FFL paper to handle.
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17 March 2009, 04:58

2 dogs

should not be any ffl needed.going from original owner for repair and back to original owner.

17 March 2009, 05:04

Trax

quote:
Originally posted by JBrown:
... and there have been other mentions of commercial FNs being soft....

..and also FNs that were vvay too hard.

17 March 2009, 08:19

Westpac

Since the heat treatment for a commercial Mauser differs from the military type Mauser, won't the batch have to be one type or the other?

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17 March 2009, 08:53

Blackbart2

I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question, however, must an action be fully annealed prior to being re-heat treated?

I have read many of the threads on this, but don't recall seeing this issue addressed.

TIA,

Bob

17 March 2009, 08:54

JBrown

quote:
Originally posted by Westpac:
Since the heat treatment for a commercial Mauser differs from the military type Mauser, won't the batch have to be one type or the other?

I think our idea is to get a batch of military actions together.

I am probably going to have to go it alone on the FNs.

17 March 2009, 17:41

vapodog

quote:
Originally posted by Blackbart2:
I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question, however, must an action be fully annealed prior to being re-heat treated?

I have read many of the threads on this, but don't recall seeing this issue addressed.

TIA,

Bob

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05 May 2009, 19:17

22WRF

what was the final reply from the heat treater on these questions?

05 May 2009, 23:18

butchlambert

It would be an FFL question if a few people sent it to one person to send it to Pacmet.
Butch

07 May 2009, 06:48

JBrown

quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
what was the final reply from the heat treater on these questions?

I'm not sure which questions you mean specifically, but her is the update I posted:
FN Heat Treating: the answer

07 May 2009, 07:17

JBrown

An old thread

And another

07 May 2009, 07:40

mstarling

Folks,

I lost the front part of this discussion ... the part about which FN Commercial actions might be soft.

What are the chances that the actions made for Sears might have a problem?

Thanks,

07 May 2009, 08:21

JBrown

Another old thread: link

I think the soft FNs were ones that were in the white. There is some speculation that they were not heat treated and originally sold as such.

There is some info that points to the Sears FN being OK, But this is the internet.....

If you look at the threads I linked take the time to read what D'arcy Echols wrote.

07 May 2009, 18:25

airgun1

Now this is pure speculation on my part, but it would seem logical that FN would leave some actions destined to be ornately engraved Browning Olympian grade guns in the white and not heat treated; and then these somehow got released into the retail world?