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Which Scope??
23 May 2005, 03:25
ramrod340Which Scope??
Well the last leupold I purchased was the old VXII. I have not used any of the new Leupolds. I have used a couple of the Burris Fullfield II scopes. Just wanting to get a decent 3x9x40 to replace a VXIII 2.5x8 I'm giving my wife.
Recommendations? Who has the best prices delivered?
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
23 May 2005, 03:57
<allen day>The last new scope I bought was one of Leupold's new 1.5-5x VX IIIs for use on a .416 Rem. Mag.
I bought it because the next-to-last scope I purchased was a Leupold 3.5-10x VX III that I installed on a .300 Win. Mag., and this is one of the very best scopes I've ever owned. The VX III is a big step up and a major improvement over its predecessor, the Vari-X III, in just about every catagory, and I do not make that statement lightly.
AD
23 May 2005, 04:10
new_guy www.swfa.com has as good a prices as i've seen on scopes. while you're there look at the "meopta" line of scopes.
I bought one about a year ago and dollar-for-dollar, for image clarity and brightness, i'd buy another one over a comparable leupold.
23 May 2005, 08:14
Mike_Dettorrethe other place to check is
www.bearbasin.com I am a bif fan of the Leuplds also. I think the 2.5x8 is actually a better scope for field use. I find that 9x magnification is to much for me cause I notice evry little movement.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
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1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
23 May 2005, 09:17
ShopCartRacingWhat gun, caliber?
Leupolds are nice, but if it is going on an old hunting rifle, you may not be able to justify the price.
For the same Leupold quality, without the big price tag, look at Weaver.
http://www.cliffsgunsmithing.com/Catalog_Weaver.htm-Spencer
23 May 2005, 20:28
CustomstoxIf you don't want to spend the bucks on a new Leupold, then I would recommend looking for a used one. I don't use anything else but them along with Nosler partitions. Simplifies that part of my life. They work and do the job very well.
23 May 2005, 20:35
fla3006I own more Leupolds than any other make but I'd also take a serious look at Czech-made Meoptas. I have a couple on Brnos and they are superb. A dirty little secret is they make the optics for most of the top-brand scopes.
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23 May 2005, 21:51
ramrod340I have both VXIIIs and the old VXIIs. How does the new VXII compare to the old? I know lightning might strike but I could never see enough difference in the old VXII & III to justify spending the extra $$.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
23 May 2005, 21:54
Savage99In that price range the Zeiss Conquest line has better optics as long as your going to a 40mm scope anyway. For price on them the theopticszone has a good deal.
For the smaller scopes the Leupold is ok. The new VX111 is no improvement otics wise however in my view. If you must get a Leu look at the VX11's in 3-9.
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24 May 2005, 03:03
new_guyquote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
I own more Leupolds than any other make but I'd also take a serious look at Czech-made Meoptas. I have a couple on Brnos and they are superb. A dirty little secret is they make the optics for most of the top-brand scopes.
I've heard that they actually make the conquest series, which are made in Czech... how many established optics makers are there in Czech?
When I was a boy all that time ago an old stalker said to me
"Buy a Parker Hale rifle and stick a Zeiss on top of it. Put your money in the optics not the rifle. A Parker Hale is good enough to kill a deer but if you can see them properly you might just as well throw the rifle at it"
German made Zeiss are very good and so was the advice
Jon Jackoviak posts here, is always helpful, and has great prices at
http://www.theopticzone.com VXII's now have the MultiCoat4 coatings that the old VariX III used to exclusively have.
Steve
26 May 2005, 04:59
invader66Who carries those scopes any how ? Meoptas, I saw them in gunshops in Prague but never here.
They looked good and local hunters were buying them. Alot of glass works there.
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In my cupboard there are scopes by Swarovski Leupold and Meopta.
In my opinion the Swaro is the best, then the Leupy, lastly the Meopta.
In my opinion, the Weaver Grand Slam is much better than a Meopta.
But then I do get things wrong, my wife tells me so.

Go with the Leupold VXIII or the rifle man. They have matched the lenses and strengthened the bodies. Also, Leupold still has an incredible lifetime warranty.