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09 September 2005, 18:05
LE270
How to smooth a Ruger 77 trigger?
The trigger on the early Ruger 77 rifles -- the tang safety version -- is adjustable for weight of pull and overtravel (i.e., forward movement after the sear has broken). But how do you get it to be smooth with a crisp lift-off? The one on the rifle I've been shooting has a looooong and creepy (i.e. not smooth) travel before it breaks.


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10 September 2005, 06:00
one-holer
Purchase an aftermarket replacement trigger.
10 September 2005, 06:41
LE270
quote:
Originally posted by one-holer:
Purchase an aftermarket replacement trigger.


Yeah. I was worried that this may be the only solution!


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10 September 2005, 06:48
mete
That's like the older Savage trigger .I've spent time and effort improving it but it would still not be a really good trigger.In the long run get a good aftermarket and save yourself the time and trouble.
10 September 2005, 18:00
JD
Lloyd: I have 3 of those Rugers. One has a Timney trigger, and the other two are Ruger triggers. I much prefer the smoothness of the Ruger trigger when done right.


JD
10 September 2005, 18:42
BigNate
Ruger 77 trigger link

I had another link I liked better but couldn't find it. I have the original trigger in my .338 that has been warmed over in this manner and like it way better than the Timeny I had in my Roberts. In fact I put the factory one back in and dumped the Timeny.
I bought a Rifle basix sear and Jard spring to do the trigger on my .22-250. Nate
11 September 2005, 02:46
LE270
quote:
Originally posted by JD:
Lloyd: I have 3 of those Rugers. One has a Timney trigger, and the other two are Ruger triggers. I much prefer the smoothness of the Ruger trigger when done right.
Thanks for that. I was looking at on-line catalogs for the Timney trigger, along with customers' comments about them, and it seems that the Timney is not so easy to install on the older tang safety Ruger 77.

I put a Rifle Basix triger on a Ruger 77 mark II, and it was very easy to install. It is also considerably better than the Ruger factory trigger, although not as good, in my opinion, as one can get the trigger on a Remington 700 to become with a bit of work.


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11 September 2005, 19:20
linren2
I put a Rifle Basix sear in my Ruger 77 , it was easy to install and is for the old Tang Safety Model Ruger , 14oz. to 2 pounds adjustable , product # 190711@ Midway $35.25 , and it works for me , very satisfied with the trigger , nice and crisp. thumb
11 September 2005, 21:20
arky65
I have installed 3 timmeny triggers on old 77 the only tricky part was the saftey engagement rod (for lack of better description). i had to remove some wood inside the stock to allow it to function smoothly.

had a gunsmith work over the tigger on my 77 .270 i prefer it as a hunting trigger over the timmney. the timmney is a better target tigger imo than the ruger trigger.

jme

arky65


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12 September 2005, 00:57
LE270
quote:
Originally posted by BigNate:
Ruger 77 trigger link

I had another link I liked better but couldn't find it. I have the original trigger in my .338 that has been warmed over in this manner and like it way better than the Timeny I had in my Roberts. In fact I put the factory one back in and dumped the Timeny. Nate


Thanks to you and the others here who said the same thing.

I was able to follow the instructions in that link and thereby improved the trigger on my rifle enormously.


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12 September 2005, 05:50
chestsprings
Leo270,

Not to high jack your thread, but I have been looking for the same answer.

I have two M 77 tang safety actions that I have been gathering parts for, Moyer steel trigger guards, steel floor plates, etc.

My next purchase is triggers for them, or maybe use the factory triggers, & get a good trigger gunsmith to work them over.

I looked at http://www.Midwayusa.com, & read the reviews of people whom installed timney triggers, or had them installed. A lot more negative, than positive replys.

These two M77 are going to be 'projects", so I want good triggers on them.

I hope more people reply to this thred.
12 September 2005, 07:15
LE270
quote:
Originally posted by chestsprings:

My next purchase is triggers for them, or maybe use the factory triggers, & get a good trigger gunsmith to work them over.

I was able to use the instructions -- and especially the diagram for which the URL is given within the website -- that are contained in the website given above by BigNate, and do this work myself, with what I think is an excellent result. But I would not suggest that you attempt it yourself unless you generally know how to follow instructions and do such work.


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13 September 2005, 21:29
BigNate
If your interested.....I just ordered a Rifle Basix sear and a couple springs for about $40 from Midway. The sear is supposed to make this job even easier and for someone who's less confident this might be better.
I'm putting the sear in a bull barrel .22-250 along with the Jard 2# spring. I actually like the Ruger trigger quite a bit. Nate
13 September 2005, 23:46
Paul H
I simply polished the sear surfaces with a fine stone, polished the pivot pins and d/t'd the trigger housing for an overtravel screw. I'll put the trigger pull up against any aftermarket trigger. Some of the M-77 Mk II's might need a lighter trigger return spring as well, but don't get carried away.

The trigger as designed by Ruger is very good, and simple. They just don't bother to properly finish it.


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13 September 2005, 23:56
GA DEER HUNTER
I ordered a timney trigger for my Ruger from the factory about 6 weeks ago. Two weeks ago I called to check on my order. The man said that they were waiting on sears from the factory and it would be there in two weeks. Today, I called back because it still has not arrived. Timney says "We are getting the sears and it should ship out at the end of next week."

Am I getting the run around or should I wait for the trigger?
14 September 2005, 02:16
BigNate
I'd cancel the order. You can have a better trigger than thiers for far less $$$. Nate
14 September 2005, 02:32
LE270
quote:
Originally posted by BigNate:
I'd cancel the order. You can have a better trigger than thiers for far less $$$. Nate


I agree.

Since I worked on mine, following the instructions provided in the website BigNate gives above, I'm extremely pleased with the result from my rifle. The re-worked Ruger factory trigger is at least as good as what you can get from a Remington 700 by working on the Remington one.


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15 September 2005, 00:53
JudgeSharpe
I have not had the same luck with Rugers. I have ordered Timmeny from Midway and got it in a couple of days. Around $90.00 for a left hand modle. 100 % improvment. Ruggers are beyound my skill, although I have worked on many other rifles, shotguns, pistols and revolvers. I have a real problem with a trigger that omes from the factory that rough. I have a Browning that is almost as bad, but have not gotten around to working on it.
Judge Sharpe


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15 September 2005, 04:46
LE270
quote:
Originally posted by JudgeSharpe:

I have a Browning that is almost as bad, but have not gotten around to working on it.


Which model Browning is it?

I once shot and worked with a Browning Safari in 22-250. It was the pencil barrel version, built on a Sako action -- the Sako action that has a gas baffle that travels with the bolt as if it were a Mauser-style extractor.

I worked on the trigger of this rifle a lot but could never get it to work well. I also could not get the rifle to shoot well, and eventually gave up on it. I consider that action to be a dud.


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15 September 2005, 18:51
GA DEER HUNTER
I did exactly what JudgeSharpe did. Canceled my order and ordered a Timney from Midway. It should be here by the first of next week. I'm sure I will see a drastic improvement over the 5.5 LB trigger that is in there now.