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.30-06 barrel length. Is 21 inches too short?

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11 March 2005, 00:41
Chet
.30-06 barrel length. Is 21 inches too short?
I'm looking at buying a pre-64 Model 70 Featherweight in .30-06. The barrel was shortened to 21.5" because some wise guy had a muzzle break installed, homer and later had the barrel cut and re-crowned to do away with the threads.(Why anyone would need a muzzle break on an 8 pound .30-06 is beyond me.) I personally can't see that this would cause any real world, substantial difference in velocity. Any opinions?

Thanks,
Chet
11 March 2005, 00:47
Chuck Nelson
How could there possibly be a problem with a 21.5" barrel on an 06. It ought to make the price better for you.

Chuck
11 March 2005, 01:14
tiggertate
Most factory rifles today are 22" so what's another half inch off?


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11 March 2005, 02:25
Cal Sibley
I really cannot see where a half inch more or less would affect you. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal


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11 March 2005, 02:29
vapodog
I have one with 18 1/2" barrel.....and it kills stuff just fine.....go for it!!


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11 March 2005, 04:50
Brad
Chet, I had my SS M70 Fwt bbl. shortened to 21"... still getting 2,750 fps with 180's... don't worry about 21.5"!


12 March 2005, 00:26
JudgeSharpe
Hello the campfire!
Buy it, try it. If you don't like the short barrel get anther barrel put on. Barrels are cheap.
Judge Sharpe, a poor widows son.


Is it safe to let for a 58 year old man run around in the woods unsupervised with a high powered rifle?
12 March 2005, 16:07
p dog shooter
Nothing to worry about at 21.5 in. The best thing is most likely drops the price way down.
12 March 2005, 19:04
Jim Kobe
The first rifle I built was done on a Browning Safari barreled action in 30-06 that someone had cut to 19 1/2". I shot the s$it out of that rifle for years. It is still my favorite rifle. Somewhere along the line, I got a chronograph and started to check velocity on my favorite load, 180 Noslers. Lo and behold, it occurred to me I was way under published velocity and decided I needed a new barrel. I went with a 22" one. I stll don't know what made me do it. That other barrel was just fine. That chrono was doing mind games with me.
It killed a lot of animals with the old barrel.


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12 March 2005, 22:54
Atkinson
The only thing it will hurt is the resale value of a pre 64 Win...so it would be determined on price of thd gun...


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12 March 2005, 23:24
RSY
Ruger puts a 20" barrel on their No.1 Internationals. I've never heard about any problems with them (related to barrel length, at least).

What's more, Remington puts an 18" barrel on their 7600 Carbine.

Also, modern powders are usually completely burned in the first 4 inches, or so, of the barrel. So, no worries, there.

RSY


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12 March 2005, 23:33
browningguy
I shoot an HK SLB2000 with a 20.6" barrel in '06 and its a fine shooting rifle, just don't pay a collectors price since the barrel has been shortened, other than that it will still kill anything in North America (and most other places).


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Houston, TX
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13 March 2005, 06:25
oldun
My 30-06 is an Huqvarna HVA lightweight with a 20 and 1/2 inch barrel it's the best 30-06 I have owned, the barrel is plenty long enough. I havn't a clue what the velocty difference is in comparison to a 22 inch barrel and quite frankly I do care to know. It shoots straight and kills animals.
As has already been said the main consideration is the effect on it's rifles value since it has been "customised".
13 March 2005, 17:16
jimmyd223
Chet, if you get the gun and are not happy with the barrel, drop me an e-mail and I will look out back in the shop, I've got a pre-64 takeoff you can have, I just have to remember where I put it bewildered
14 March 2005, 02:36
PC
I wouldnt think so my ruger barrel is 22" from the factory so I doubt the 21" will make any real world difference, I say go for it !!
14 March 2005, 20:42
Stonecreek
Whoever installed the muzzle brake substantially devalued the gun. Whoever cut that abomination off of the gun at least partially restored some of the value.

While I'd rather have the orginal 24" barrel, you'll likely only suffer velocity losses that only your chronograph will know for sure. Nothing you shoot with it will know the difference, and although you'll have more muzzle blast with the 21.5" barrel than with the 24-incher, you'll still have substantially less than with the muzzle brake installed.

Just don't pay a collector price.
14 March 2005, 20:54
Roland1
Go for it Chet, no problem with 21".

Roland