M95 Mannlicher as basis for custom rifle???

21 December 2003, 11:47

Well any thoughts, for or against. Looked one over and was impressed by how smooth this little straight pull was.

Thanks for you comments.

Scott

21 December 2003, 14:29

Tailgunner

Biggest drawback I can see is the magazine. It requires a en-bloc clip in order to function properly, which restricts the scoping options.
It would be ideal for a 7.62x54R "scout" or iron sighted woods rifle. It is also a fairly easy action to convert to left handed operation if that is of value to you.

21 December 2003, 14:36

covey16

It's a well made classic rifle as is. Just load up some mild loads and enjoy.

It has enough power for deer size game at reasonable range. Unless you hunt in an area that requires long shots,it'll work. Iron sight hunting is the wave of the future anway.

good shooting

Covey16

ps

like Tailgunner said, make sure you get a least 1 clip with it,if you don't have one its a very slow single shot.

22 December 2003, 06:58

Dosing

I gave it some long idle thought, and messed about a bit with them (they used to be 30$US). The magazine issue can be overcome in several ways. My final plan was to create a two shot rifle, by streamlining the mag bottom, it would involve some work, but is do-able. Another easier option would be to start with one of the models that does not require stripper clips, 95M in 8mm Mauser for example. The stocks always needed a lot of work if you wanted to recycle it. Another option is a single shot. Either way once you get past the mag issues you have easy scoping issues, either side or top. Rebarreling resolves a few issues, like sights, and the screw holes. A later Budapest model would be the way to go, I thought, as they usually seem stouter.
The one problem I never gave much thought to was the need for better gas baffling in the bolt.

22 December 2003, 22:27

mehulkamdar

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It's a well made classic rifle as is. Just load up some mild loads and enjoy.
It has enough power for deer size game at reasonable range. Unless you hunt in an area that requires long shots,it'll work. Iron sight hunting is the wave of the future anway.
good shooting
Covey16
ps
like Tailgunner said, make sure you get a least 1 clip with it,if you don't have one its a very slow single shot.

Very true - and they are available in a number of modern calibers like .30-06, .270 etc. You will love them - wish someone could revive Mannlichers like many experts have the Mauser!

23 December 2003, 05:53

ScottS

Anyone have line on a good supply of enbloc clips?

Thanks,
Scott

24 December 2003, 06:39

Tailgunner

Are we thinking of the same rifle? The 1895 Austrian is a streight pull bolt action, origionaly chambered in 8x50R and later converted to the 8x56R. Some were converted to 7.92x57, for rear guard/home guard positions, by the Germans near the end of WW-2.
To the best of my knowlege, these are the only 3 chamberings it was ever made in.

25 December 2003, 08:09

covey16

Tailgunner
As I remember, the austrian 1895 is a straight pull rifle in 8mm (bolt behind the rear bridge).
The dutch 1895 is a 6.5mm that looks like an 1893 austrian (split bridge classic mannlicher).
I wouldn't shoot any of them with hot handloads or rechamber to modern cartridges, but have shot both with old military ammo and mild reloads. I like the 1895 Dutch carbine best.
best wishes
Covey16

25 December 2003, 09:56

covey16

Mehulkamdar
You may be thinking of the later Mannlicher-Shoenauer rotary magazine rifles.
They were indeed wonderful creations available in many calibers.
I wish I owned one.
best wishes
Covey16

25 December 2003, 10:09

Tailgunner

Covey16
At one time I owned 3 of the M-95 Austrians, all in 8x50R.

25 December 2003, 10:35

covey16

Tailgunner
That reply was mainly for Mehulkamdar and Scotts.
If, i've made a mistake please correct me.
Merry Christmas
Covey16

25 December 2003, 12:50

Tailgunner

Just making sure we were on the same page, that's all.
No mistakes that I've seen.

26 December 2003, 05:25

<eldeguello>

Quote:

It's a well made classic rifle as is. Just load up some mild loads and enjoy. It has enough power for deer size game at reasonable range. Unless you hunt in an area that requires long shots,it'll work. Iron sight hunting is the wave of the future anway.
good shooting Covey16 ps
like Tailgunner said, make sure you get a least 1 clip with it,if you don't have one its a very slow single shot.

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Very true - and they are available in a number of modern calibers like .30-06, .270 etc. You will love them - wish someone could revive Mannlichers like many experts have the Mauser!

mehulkamdar, methinks you're talking about the Mann. Schoenauer, NOT the Austrian M95 Mannlicher straight-pull service rifles! I've seen some of the M95's that were converted to 7.62X54R by the Soviets and used as running-boar competition target rifles, but I am sure the actions are too short for the '06 or .270 Win., etc.!

27 December 2003, 12:26

vigillinus

Owned a Sedgely sporter 30-40 Krag cal. on a Steyr 95, looked just like a Sedg Springfield except for the action. The regular chargers worked altho the cartridge fit was a bit loose. Also had a 95M rebarreled to 7x57, right and left hand bolts, express sights, French walnut, a long time ago but I think this was altered to use 1898 clips. Scope would not work on the Sedg as the chargers needed clearance to load. This action is well made and quite strong but trigger pulls are usually lousy. Also had an Austrian sporter, ribbed barrel, rebored to .348, single shot only, would have been possibly to cut a charger down the back and solder it with a strip down the middle to make it a bit wider to hold the .348s, enough room could have been found in the magazine. German conversion of 95M to 8x57 is a big crude but it made a good 7mm and a 6.5x55 would be neat. Not strong enough in my opinion for .308 series. 95M is comparatively rare. As noted in another comment these should not be hard to make 95 into 7.62x54 Russian, however, the Russian running boar target rifles were made on Ross actions if I am not mistaken, not on Steyrs.

27 December 2003, 22:57

carcano91

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I've seen some of the M95's that were converted to 7.62X54R by the Soviets and used as running-boar competition target rifles

I would really be inclined to doubt that, El Deguello. To the best of my knowledge, there were converted Ross rifles, and re-chambered for the 6,3x54 R.

Regards,
Carcano