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.25 Remington (bolt action) project

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09 December 2024, 04:08
Matt Norman
.25 Remington (bolt action) project
Am in need of adult supervision once again.

I'm pondering a bolt rifle in the old .25 Remington cartridge. Long story, have other such rifles, dies, and brass.

Spit wadding it here but I think I'm going to get a .400 Legend rifle on the cheap in order to get the right bolt face (?). Then have have installed a barrel chambered for .25 Remington.

OR, would it be better to open up the bolt face of a .223 donor action to 6.8 size (?)

Who in our gunsmith world has a .25 Remington reamer?

More questions to follow.
09 December 2024, 18:41
Bobster
Two suggestions:

1. Get a Ruger 77 in .223. Re-barrel to .25 Rem. Open the bolt face and alter the extractor.

2. Rebarrel a Carcano. Modify for Rem 788 6mm Rem magazine. Move bolt handle to rear and install a receiver bridge filler for conventional scope bases.
09 December 2024, 19:19
p dog shooter
The adult in the room says go out and by a very nice 257 Roberts.
09 December 2024, 21:02
rcraig
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Norman:
Am in need of adult supervision once again.

I'm pondering a bolt rifle in the old .25 Remington cartridge. Long story, have other such rifles, dies, and brass.


OR, would it be better to open up the bolt face of a .223 donor action to 6.8 size (?)



More questions to follow.


It would be better to choose a different chambering. Components for the 25 Remington are not common. Buffalo Arms (I think) might have brass.


Old Corps
Semper Fi
FJB
09 December 2024, 23:06
Matt Norman
I've got brass and dies.

I'm just on a gun guy 'quest' for a project

I have a .257 Roberts

Still looking for somebody with a reamer.
10 December 2024, 00:09
richj
25, 30 , 32 Rem are the same rim diameter?

Rem Model 30?
10 December 2024, 01:38
rcraig
https://www.reamerrentals.com/...ProductCode=25BR%2Ef

Maybe ?


Old Corps
Semper Fi
FJB
10 December 2024, 02:01
theback40
I have a 35 rem on a carcano I built for fun, and could do it cheap with a friends help. Works great, so I thought about doing a 25 rem as I have brass and dies from a Rem pump in that caliber.
Time past, and I moved on from the idea .... whew!
10 December 2024, 06:35
Bobster
If you have to buy one:

https://www.pacifictoolandgaug...Ku-R2617-hC7HuRwp234
11 December 2024, 00:33
J Wisner
You guys are overthinking this.

Unless you have a Rem M30 in 25 Rem, ( which I do, and am restoring ), or 30, 32 Rem caliber then the easy way is to

Take a Mauser 98 action.
Re-machine the bolt head like FN did for the 222 action, but to fit the .420 dia case head
A reproduction FN 222 extractor, and fit to the 25 Rem extractor groove
Block the rear of the magazine well for the proper inside length, this will also make the inside width more proper/narrower for the 25 Rem cartidges
Use a 223 magazine spring.
Make a new Mauser type follower to fit the narrow magazine opening

Just my 2 cents

J Wisner
11 December 2024, 02:54
Atkinson
I cut my teeth on a 94 SRC 25/35.on Mule deer. whitetail deer and elk with that gun and still have one still shoot deer with it..Id love a Rem m-30 and a REm m-8 or its later version the 14 in 25 Rem

the Hornady 117 gr RN is a outstanding killer of game, but better buy all you can as its going south soonest..


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
11 December 2024, 19:55
Stonecreek
Matt:

Your first option, getting a .400 Legend rifle and rebarreling, would work fine -- provided the rifle's magazine is long enough to take a full length .25 Rem since it is about a quarter inch longer than the .400.

However, most .223 bolt faces could easily be opened to accommodate the larger rim -- but magazine fit could be a problem with some. The best way to know is simply load some .25 Rem cartridges into the prospective magazine and see how they fit and feed.

My son has a Remington Model 14 in .25 Rem that his grandfather left him. I've loaded a bunch of 90 grain Sierra HP's for it and it shoots with surprising accuracy. I keep thinking that one of us will take it out one day to kill a deer, but we always seem to be busy shooting some other rifle.
12 December 2024, 05:51
Matt Norman
I've got a 14 and an 81 along with brass and dies. My eyes don't make for shooting irons anymore hence my quest for a bolt action. Figure it will be plenty of caliber for whacking does in Texas!
13 December 2024, 00:37
2152hq
There's a Haenel Model 1909 (bolt action) in 25 Remington cal with 4x in claw mounts in the classifides now.

Old school for sure but the 'New Model' Mannlichers are beautiful rifles.

I have a Mod 1905 and and two 1909 Haenel Mannlichers (none in 25Rem however!)
13 December 2024, 06:11
Bobster
That gun is listed as a 6.5x52. It fires a 6.8 mm bullet. The .25 Remington fires a 6.5 mm bullet.

quote:
Originally posted by 2152hq:
There's a Haenel Model 1909 (bolt action) in 25 Remington cal with 4x in claw mounts in the classifides now.

Old school for sure but the 'New Model' Mannlichers are beautiful rifles.

I have a Mod 1905 and and two 1909 Haenel Mannlichers (none in 25Rem however!)

15 December 2024, 22:47
2152hq
So,, not as advertised. Who knew. A dead end.

Well it would have been nice in 25Rem !
15 December 2024, 23:43
dpcd
Confusion reigns when we start comparing Metric/European caliber designations to inch and other cartridge names.
Good example here; we all know and love some ilk of 6.5mm Cartridge and we all know it flings bullets of .264 inch diameter.
However, 6.5 is NOT the bullet diameter; it is the bore diameter of .256.
Which also happens to be the bullet diameter of the 25 caliber cartridges like the aforementioned 25 Rem. Ok, .257; close enough. It will surprise many to see that the designation 6.5mm, really means .25 caliber.
That is what makes this hobby so much fun; no standardization. Which, at this point, we do not want.
As for 6.8MM, that is .268, again, NOT the bullet diameter, but the bore. Bullet diameters are .277. So, even the nomenclature .270, means nothing. Just a name.
21 December 2024, 22:50
Recoil Rob
quote:
Originally posted by J Wisner:
You guys are overthinking this.

Unless you have a Rem M30 in 25 Rem, ( which I do, and am restoring ), or 30, 32 Rem caliber then the easy way is to

Take a Mauser 98 action.
Re-machine the bolt head like FN did for the 222 action, but to fit the .420 dia case head
A reproduction FN 222 extractor, and fit to the 25 Rem extractor groove
Block the rear of the magazine well for the proper inside length, this will also make the inside width more proper/narrower for the 25 Rem cartidges
Use a 223 magazine spring.
Make a new Mauser type follower to fit the narrow magazine opening

Just my 2 cents

J Wisner


Model 30's don't get much love, do they?
I have a very nice one in 35 Rem. that I was thinking of selling until I saw the prices on sold ones on GunBroker. Really not much more than $500 for a nice one.


21 December 2024, 22:53
Recoil Rob
duplicate post.
22 December 2024, 23:24
2152hq
I have a Rem30 Express in 30-06.
All orig in near excl condition.
Bought it at a show 2 yrs ago from a dealer who couldn't wait to get it sold.
Priced at $325, as soon as I asked to look at it, he said I could have it for $250!. No one wants a 30-06 he said.
Of course I don't mind another 30-06!

No love from others meant great buy for me.
I'm very happy with it. The price was about the value of the factory Lyman 48 sitting atop it.
23 December 2024, 00:36
rcraig
I have two 30s, one in 30 Rem, one in 35 Rem.


Old Corps
Semper Fi
FJB
23 December 2024, 19:24
Recoil Rob
I agree, besides the 35 Rem. I have 30.06 that I had rebored to 35 Whelen.

My only 30.06 is a Remington model 720.
02 January 2025, 05:03
Matt Norman
My gunsmith talked me out of it! Gee, I hate it when common sense prevails!
21 January 2025, 01:32
Atkinson
Id love a 25 Rem to go with my 25-35 and scoped. IVE shot many deer and 5 or 6 elk with my 25-35 m-94. Its a grand little cartridge when used within its ballistics and that's 200 yds on deer and 100 yds on elk with lung/heart shots, add another 50 yds or so with snow on the ground.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com