M70 value...?

09 July 2010, 01:27

airgun1

I checked you ad. A picture or two may help sell it here at that price.

That serial number puts that as a prewar receiver. The rear bridge was not factory drilled unless a special order (needs documentation).

An unmolested prewar stock is a big plus; I believe you posted elsewhere that this has a peep notchout. The rarer/older the gun the less mods the better as far as restoration goes. Even if the metal was super clean a guy looking to restore is going to run because unmolested prewar stocks are few and far between and go for nearly what you are asking for the gun.

Your price is a tad high. You are short $200 worth of action parts. A few pics may help sell it here. Pics would also help to sell it on GunBroker. Nothing is absolute, but your SN puts it as a prewar and not a Transition model. Pics would clear that up.

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09 July 2010, 21:52

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Good used M70 bbl = $50-$120

Good used M70 stock = $40-$140

Good used M70 bottom metal = ~$100

Good used M70 sling swivels, iron sights and buttplate = $50-$100

So, the cannibalized parts from a typical M70 will bring ~$240-$460, let's say $350 salvage value plus the complete receiver and bolt or $250 salvage plus the complete action.

Plus the added hassle of selling the parts separately, leaving the action worth even less. So IMO a complete average M70 should sell for no more than $750 at max in order for me to be interested at all. And even then I'd be more-or-less swapping dollars.....JMO.
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10 July 2010, 19:07

M1Tanker

quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
granted.

But, I hear all the time that builders take the basic action and replace everything else. This one is a good place to start, and you are not trashing a complete rifle with collector value.

You are exactly right about most of the parts being replaced. But the deal is that most guys buy the COMPLETE rifle for $600 then sell off the odds and ends parts for a couple hundred to offset the cost a bit. $400-450 would be a far more reasonable asking price for what is essentially a parts gun or a restoration project.

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13 July 2010, 20:09

J.D.Steele

Have sold for less and have sold for more, depends on the condition and rarity, see my SWAG at prices above. Recently have sold 'em for as little as $500 (butchered FW) and as much as $2000 (EXC 375H&H). Sold a very nice '53-vintage 270 with Win solid pad, this one was a true MOA rifle, for $700. Sold to a friend, admittedly, but still IMO the price was almost as much as the retail value around here.

'Around here' and 'cash' are important caveats when pricing anything(G).
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